Much love and peace back brother, may your life be filled full of joy, bliss, love
and happiness

I love this place, so many f**king amazing people on here, I think this is the most intelligent substance forum on the net, beats mycotopica and the shroomery hands down!

Peace

Could you further elaborate on your breakthrough and your integration process? It would be much appreciated. I definitely know what you are saying is not elitist, it can be the truth of the matter.

Just a quick "Thank you" must go out to The Traveler, especially for his great skill in taming and cooling a conversation so that it can keep on a positive track.


This is very good advice. Your "set and setting" are very important. I might be a bit of a masochist but there were a couple of times in my life when I was experiencing extreme turmoil, such as when my father and uncle passed away, that I decided to do some heavy dosing. I can tell you that, while I found them very therapeutic, they were also some of the most emotionally painful and saddest experiences I have ever had in my life.

I will note that your personal mindset is very influential on the path you will take when taking a journey with The Spice. Negative emotions such as fear, anger, hate, etc. can really cause a Spice Journey to go in a very bad direction.


After 5 years or so of experience I have developed some general rules that I 'usually' try to follow.

1. Never dose when upset or angry.

2. Do not when you are anxious or nervous. Understand that it is common to have a little anxiety or nervousness just before dosing, but avoid dosing when you have more intense anxiety, especially if it is something that has been bothering you throughout the day or week. (Sometimes, according to what is causing the anxiety, it can be therapeutic to dose at this time regardless. Just keep in mind that often this is not necessarily fun or enjoyable.)

3. Don't dose when sad or depressed (unless your intention is extreme therapy and you want to confront the demons that ail you, but be aware that this is almost never fun or enjoying, even if it is therapeutic).

4. Do not dose in an unfamiliar environment. I highly recommend against going out somewhere to dose. (I understand a lot of people like to use The Spice to 'party' on but I personally feel it should be used for spiritual exploration and therapy rather than recreation. I'm not condemning others for using it in such a manner, it is just personal.) The problem is that if you are in an unfamiliar environment, you can come out of a Spice Journey not remembering where you are and since you do not recognize your surrounding it can send you into a panic. Additionally, sometimes The Spice Journey will come in waves. You can break through and come out and all of a sudden your breaking through again. This can, in some case, occur several times on a single dose depending on how much you take and your personal metabolism and sensitivity. Basically, the problem is that if you get through one wave and don't realize where you are and anxiety sets in before the next wave hits, then you might find yourself in the middle of a trip gone bad. During an experience similar to this I found myself screaming in terror during several successive breakthrough waves. And between each wave I was just weeping in complete and utter fear, begging and praying "Please, God, let this be the end of this trip!"

5. Prepare your environment beforehand. Avoid a stressful setting. I usually try to make sure the house is empty (having someone you trust to babysit you can be a good idea). If someone is downstairs arguing, it can turn a heavenly experience into a terrorizing hell. Sirens and gunshots in the back ground can send you into an uncontrollable panic (things like this can be stressful even when not on a Spice Journey, but when on a Journey, this can be amplified by the thousands).

6. Develop a ritual for taking The Journey. By developing a ritual and always repeating it the same way every time you dose, it helps condition your mind and spirit so that when you begin your ritual your mind automatically begins to prepare for the Journey. Additionally, you can prepare your environment as part of this ritual.

My ritual begins with a hot refreshing shower to help me relax. After I am clean and refreshed, I dry off thoroughly and methodically. First my head, then my arms, then my chest, back, and torso. Then my legs and feet, and finally my nether region. The same way every time. And when I'm all dry I don my bath robe and proceed to my room. There, I lay out my Spice and dosing tools. I measure out how ever much I intend to do for the evening and put it in my Pyrex dish. I always place a glass of water just beyond the Pyrex dish at the end of arms reach (in case I need to wet my pallet or wash my mouth out) and 7 lighters beside the dish (I usually misplace a few of them throughout the evening). I never do it on my bed. Instead I lay out a blanket on the floor beside my Spice dish. Then I place a bucket (in case I expel/vomit) and a second blanket neatly folded (in case I get cold) beside my blanket/bed opposite the side of the Spice dish. Now at this point I put some soothing music on. Pleasant music helps guide the Journey and keep it focused. I recommend avoiding heavy metal and hard rap and anything else that has an aggressive overtone. Also avoid sad or angry music as well. Usually, earthly music and music with little or few lyrics are often good. I have listed some of my most recommended albums below. Anyway, now that the music is playing, I light some incense and dim the lights. Finally, just before I begin dosing, I disrobe, get comfortable, and use a pleasant smelling moisturizing body lotion. Legs, arms, face, etc. The smells, the music, the dim lights, everything has me prepared and now I begin dosing.


Following are some Albums that I recommend:

Mike Oldfield - The Songs Of Distant Earth
Mike Oldfield - Guitars
Mike Oldfield - Voyager
Enigma - A Posteriori
Enigma - M C M X a. D
Enigma - Voyageur
Mystica - Second Dive
Mystica - Age of Innocence
Satyricon - Late Nights and Early Mournings
Lesiëm - Mystic. Spirit. Voices.
Lesiëm - Illumination
Mythos - Iridescence
Mythos - Purity
Mythos - Eternity

And if you would like a really “Trippy” experience I recommend:

Autechre - Quaristice
Psykovsky - Da Budet
Psykovsky - Debut
Psykovsky - Tanetsveta


Anyway, everyone finds their own little niche. These are things that I have found work for me. Each person finds what works for them as an individual. As stated by many, start low and work up to the point that you are comfortable with. You could find that 20mg is all you need or want, or you could find yourself at the point that you don't even bother to measure your dose and just do it. Good luck and may you find the light.

i know this was not directed at me, but i thought i would add something ... I feel that the best way to integrate an exp is to practice some path of some sort that brings you joy!

i had a crazy scary shroom trip once i think i had about 6 grams or close too, i felt down and confused afterwards for some time i was finding it hard to integrate what i perceived. i wasn't meditatingg at the time, so i started again and then i was able to feel happy about myself, the joy and love is gives me reconfirmed everything i already believed in and i was able cope.

I know this is not the same as DMT but joyfull practices can alleviate fears and make everything feel alright again, it actually helped me rededicate myself and progress much further than if I hadn't has a hard time tripping

Peace.

EZ4U2Shoot : wise words.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/d...aspx?g=posts&t=33032

Here's the thread describing the experience. Any more questions, feel free to ask.

I have ingested large doses of DMT on several occasions. Allways experienced that
the higher the dose, the more hyperspace travel-nausea I experienced.

Also on 2, maybe 3 occasions the hits of DMT I took were so large that I
felt very uneasy, nauseous, limb and about to faint. To the point I wondered if
DMT at these doses may have toxic effects. Unfortunatly I don't own a miligram-scales
so I have no way of determining how large those doses were. It was all eyeballing.

I have since abandoned vaporising DMT in glass/pyrex pipes; You just can never be sure
how much DMT you will be inhaling. The one moment you get nothing, the next you get
a devastating amount of DMT in your lungs.

So I have moved on to another way to vaporise DMT. Smoking it in joints, with a tid bit of
Cannabis to make for filling material & flavour improvement. I know; Terribly wastefull method
of vaporising DMT, but I must say I'm willing to pay that price. The Catch with this method is
that you can really finetune the Depth/Intensity of your DMT experience, like a dimswitch.




The downside about high doses of DMT ( for me 50mg and higher doses) I have found to be the following:
-Blackouts & Amnesia; What good is a learning experience if you cannot remember it?
-Nausea, limb/faint muscles, extreme dizzyness & tunnelvision: These also distract from the learning experience.
-Extreme sweating, increased heart rate, Sensory overload: Too much info to process or remember; No learning.


Instead of smoking 90 mg all at once, I'd much rather smoke 3 joints each containing 30 mgs of DMT,
spread equally over the course of abt. 90 minutes. This way I can have a DMT experience of abt. 90
minutes, with only 2 brief interruptions to light the next DMT joint.
More isn't better. Longer is better.

The depth and value of the experience can defenitely be improved, but I found that that isn't done by simply
increasing the dose. On my earlier DMT trips I was told to not overindulge and not to want moar and moar!
"They" told me that before they would give me more knowledge, they required ME to first learn to apply the
knowledge that they already gave me. This advice I took & it served me well. Some of "them" taught me some
simple ways to quiet the mind & enter into deeper & higher layers of consciousness. Pretty standard Buddhist
meditation knowledge, but brought to my attention in a way that really captivated & convinced me. Most
prominently I was taught to "quiet the mind to travel deeper" by a skinny, blue skinned man with long black
hair sitting in the typical lotus posture. He looked like a Saddhu painted completely light blue. As he
taught this lesson I saw twin spiralling snakes, like a DNA strand, growing out of his rootchakra down into
the depths below. I'll save you guys the other learning experiences...For now

Since those techniques were mastered I found that breaking through & going deep required MUCH less DMT to
be smoked/vapped than before. I could since "stay in" much longer than ever before. On 3 big tokes of a
30 mg DMT joint I can close my eyes, lay back and travel for up to 45 minutes. Concentration is key, to which
in turn quieting the mind is key.


Don't take more and expect it to take you further. Instead learn to apply to life the knowledge you've already
been given. Wait untill you feel you have done that. Then you shall be ready to go back for more knowledge.

I highly suggest investing in a proper scale. You can get them on ebay for about $30 USD. Just search for 'diamond scale'. Be sure to get a digital scale with calibration weights that has .005ct or .001g accuracy.

You might be surprised how much variance you have in your dosing. "Eyeballing" DMT is just extremely inefficient, especially at amounts that most people would dose at. Eyeballing multiple 100's of milligrams is much more accurate, percentage-wise, than eyeballing milligrams or 10's of milligrams. I have pulled batches that have been split between two Pyrex dished and put into two different freezers that the weight/volume ration varied extremely. In fact, they have been drastically different by placing two dishes on different shelves in the same freezer. So many factors can affect an eyeball method that there really is no way to tell precisely how much is in a dose. I usually make a decent sized amount and fill a small jelly jar. In this case, a 65mg pile from the bottom of the jar takes up as much room as a 30-40mg pile from the top of the jar. Even if you razor cut it every time there is still a difference. Also, I have noticed that when The Spice is subjected to a slightly warmer room temperature it compresses. A fresh out of the freezer scraping is much fluffier than something that was scraped a week or two ago, even if it has been stored in the freezer the whole time.

I will also point out that you may find that it is much easier to find your "sweet spot" for dosing if you have a good scale. Sometimes the difference between the "sweet spot" and "uh oh, too much" can be as little as a 3-5mg difference. My "better half" can hit the sweet spot at 15mg but give her 18mg and she is in a panic. For me, I just throw it in there and go. Anymore, the only time I measure individual doses is once in a while to keep track of approximately how much I'm doing.