Has anyone ever tryed extracted DMT from [bundel weed] ..[Desmanthus illinoensis]?
It can be found many places in the moidwest usa.. is it any good?

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have wondered about this very thing. tons available but not sure how to remove gramine and have yet to find a tek.

There's no tek specifically for illionensus.

But there is a search function on the nexus! Yay for search functions!

Marsofold did an extraction on it back when dmtworld was still up.Don't remember the particulars of the experiment other then he got about a gram or less then that of dmt out of a kilo of root.Can't remember for sure the yeild I know it wasn't much. I am pretty sure it was the whole root and not just the rootbark. Wish some of that info from dmtworld could have been saved.Haven't seen marsofold post anywhere lately that I frequent so I don't know about asking him.

gram from a kilo aint bad concidering how fast it grows..Ive heard of better yeilds though.
For the highest alk content you need a plant that is of the right age harvested durring the dry season..probly varries strain to strain also.

There is no reason to even assume gramine is toxic or a problem..the ammount of gramine said to be present is negligable anyway I think..it might not even be there. Plus, endless has shown already that room temp naptha and limo will leave it behind.

Yeah I guess your right considering the situation with mhrb. Where have you heard of better yields if I may ask? I would be interested to read of anybody elses success with an extraction of this. Marsofold is the only one I've seen post results of an extraction on it.

I think ringworm used to grow it and used it in brews and stuff. He said it works. I also heard another person who used it back in the 90's say it was about 1/3 the potency of mimosa.

Some people could have been randomly harvesting after the rains etc back then..we dont really know the specifics of the harvesting from most old reports.

I tried an extraction on Desmanthus illinoensis a few years back. It was made using the whole roots (not just root bark), obtained through a vendor. Not sure on how or when they were harvested. They were very tough roots, you'd better have a good coffee grinder because I bought a shitty one and busted it within minutes!

What I did manage to grind up, was then triple boiled for three hours in water with a little vinegar, then reduced to a small volume of liquid. It was basified with sodium carbonate, then washed with diethyl ether. This was before STB extractions were common, and so I was just making up the tek as I went along. When the ether was evaporated, a small pile of greyish powder was left.

Vaporization was attempted, it had a generic tryptamine-like smell and produced a very mild alteration of consciousness. Nowhere near a breakthrough. Not sure if there was a failure in the extraction tek, or if the root bark contained less active tryptamines. I have heard that some strains of this plant are high in DMT, while others contain little DMT.

also I would assume that roots from younger plants probly contain little DMT and more NMT..this is usually the case I think with mimosa that is too young also.

It is an easy plant to grow though anyway..I will be putting a couple into the ground this year..I dunno what the seed I have is like though..I never grew the plant all the way to harvest becasue I got sidetracked with other plants and forgot about my desmanthus after the first 6 months or so.