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Hi there I have been having sub break through doses upto 25mg just to get my feet wet and I feel I want to try a larger break through dose, somewhere between 40 - 60mg (I am 240 lbs 6ft2) I was going to do a 3 day grape fast with some bowel detoxing yoga , kidney and liver detoxes before I attempt to break through. I was wondering if fasting, cleansing, detoxing helps purify the trip or align ones experience with a higher vibration? does abstaining from sex and retaining sexual energy help or change a break through trip? also does any particular vitamins or other supplements help in creating a better and / or more spiritual exp and is there anything I could take that would make it easier to remember the experience? My goal is god head realization, unity with the universe, it is something I strive for in meditation, but it is quite hard to achieve through meditation alone and requires great time and effort (which I don't mind doing). Can anyone give any pre trip tips regarding having a higher spiritual experience? thanks for reading peace I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention in fact everything I write here is a lie !
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Eating a pure whole foods diet, with pure water(wild spring water is best) definatly helps in every aspect of life..this aspect included. Fasting in my experience is not necessary and makes for really unpleasant experiences that I gain little insight from. I also know of people who have passed out and injured themselved while trying to fast before a trip..so personally I dont reccoment that. I just make sure my stomach is not full, but that is most important with oral though even vaping having a full stomache is not comfortable for me. Some people love to fast I guess. Alan shoemaker swears by eating some otmeal before ayahuasca and claims it makes the tea more effective..some curranderos eat chicken soup before a ceremony. I guess I am just really not sold on fasting and my experience with it was less than ideal so I have no interest in it. I eat a very clean diet every day though so I dont have much toxins to clean out of me. At this point I have only beeing drinking fresh water right from a spring for 5 years, so for some people on a SAD died maybe a fast can help..just be careful abotu tripping while fasting..people have gotten injured doing this I know this for a fact. I dunno about the sex thing really..honestly sex is great with ayahuasca so I might not be the right person to answer that one. Personally I dont really see any spiritual benefit in not having sex unless you are like humping random people or just having meaningless sex all the time. If your having sex with someout and it's really making love then thats one of the most spiritual experiences I think two human beings can have. I guess some people say orgasms are draining though..then there is always trantric sex which is sopposed to be anything but draining. Long live the unwoke.
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some swear by fasting and seem to get a lot out of it, like phlux- whose done up to 3 weeks he told me 0.0 ....him and others claim it leads to an incredibly clear and balanced state of being if done right i tried almost two days not long ago and i actually felt amazing by the end of it, and not really hungry at all. i was actually surprised by the clarity i felt, and the energy...but when i smoked dmt it was a more confusing experience than normal (this could very well be due to other factors though since the experience is so variable anyways! i'd had a long week before that, to say the least). It did seem to last longer than usual though also- most people seem to fast before oral psychedelics, not smoked dmt trips...While i think it will affect it, dmt doesn't pass through the digestive system when smoked.. so the benefits if any would be limited in comparison to taking an oral psychedelic after fasting, it seems. I'd just try DMT without the fasting first, then do that later if you choose. If you get into fasting also be sure to start off very very slow and drink tons of fluids I'm more interested in fruit/green juice fasting personally, since that's combined with psychedelics beautifully for me
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Thanks for the advice! This has cleared things up quite a bit! I fast probably about 8 times a year and I find on its own, it really helps clear my mind and my body feels really light. I was wondering what the effect of fasting would have on DMT but as universecannon kindly pointed out, DMT can seem confusing after a fast, this makes sense as fasting clears the mind and DMT would alter it and the difference between the two states would probably be much more noticeable after a fast. do you folks find that meditation and / or other calming / relaxing exercises helps one have a more positive trip? I accept that I could have a hellish experience and I am prepared for that, maybe I need a bad experience? . I would love it to be the opposite thought. I have read Proper methods of administration NN-DMT and intend to follow the advice on there as best as possible. I guess I am trying to make it as spiritually positive, loving and enlightening as possible! Again thank you all so much for your input it is GREATLY appreciated! Peace I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention in fact everything I write here is a lie !
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interesting question. First there's the mental preparation, which i think best to just focus on letting go not having a "god head experience", try not to go in with expectations or give in to astonishment as mckenna often said, thought will hold u back. Meditation is also an amazing tool, as is intent.As for the physical preparation i found a big difference in what i eat towards how it effects the trip but much more so for oral preparations than smoked dmt. Found if i eat a lot of crappy food the body is more heavy so sort of like an anchor and same with sex. Sex is like putting the body thruogh a tornado and many shamans say and i found truth in it also has a lot to do with smells and communication with the spirits. The more healthy i am and more abstain from sex the more a kind of sweet smell emanating from the body and it is your smell that can attract or detract certain kinds of spirits. Also besides supplying more vital energy , sensitizing you to the plants/substances, abstaining from sex and certain foods, i found the spirit able to easier roam free because it sort of loosens the ties between the physical and spiritual bodies. These points are why i think all the restrictions exist in traditional dietas. But again this is more for oral preperations and none of it is required for a god head experience just in my experience found helped.
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infinitynlove wrote: do you folks find that meditation and / or other calming / relaxing exercises helps one have a more positive trip?
Absolutely, without a doubt. For me, its usually all about trying to enter the psychedelic state while in as calm and coherent a consciousness as possible. The better i do that, the more coherent, meaningful, mind blowing, and tangible the experience seems to be. A bit of yoga followed by meditation before dmt is a beautiful thing. I usually don't even do it without some calming pranayama type stuff first
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I find a nice colon cleanse before any psychedelic greatly enhances the experience and reduces my worries about digestion issues during the trip. As far as sex goes, I find that pent up sexual energy can negatively impact the trip. For example, when I'm pent up, I sometimes get lower back pain. + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- DMT Nexus Research ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- +
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echoes wrote:I used to "prepare" for my Rue journeys in various ways because I felt that would make the experience more profound. Fasting, drumming, meditation.. Once I even climbed a mountain before drinking the tea (not joking - turned out great actually). But I also drank it when I was in a very bad mental place, with no preparations, when I didn't care what I eat (although my diet is usually quite healthy - lots of fruits, seeds, no junk or processed food, no sodas etc). That was this summer when I started combining Rue with my usual Cube dosage (which was 3 grams, 1-2 times a week). I was a complete mess, with everything falling apart so in the beginning I used the psychedelics just to escape reality. Now when I dealt with many things that were holding me back since childhood, I go far deeper. What I mean by that is being completely taken into the timeless motionless bliss which I feel is our real nature, but it's kind of pointless even trying to describe it. IMO that's something you can't achieve with for example a diet or preparing, and I think it requires hard work over a long period of time. So mind altering substances are only a TOOL, not a cure, nor do they improve anything without your own effort. After you realize that, consciously dealing with issues becomes your second nature and you don't need anything to "push" you to do it anymore. I don't feel a need to take Rue so often, now it's every few months. My dosages also changed. Before I used 3 grams of Cubes, but now more than 1 grams scares me like nothing else. I also never take shrooms alone anymore. Rue dosages have increased, and I use it alone sometimes. This way it keeps me aware and doesn't mess with my brain so much, which is something I prefer nowadays. But even now diet or meditation etc don't make any difference! But what makes the difference for me is two things: 1. Intention I have prior to experience. Now I take it only when I need to sort some parts of my life, so I enter the day of the experience with a strong intention to deal with it. I approach it much more seriously than before, but without any superstition, trying to be humble but realistic. That way I make the most out of it. Also, once I used it to "test" how far Rue can take me and it turned out to be a very bad idea, although the dose was regular. It transformed me in all kinds of creatures and I could "control" all my senses, for example I could turn off or change colors, sound... I wanted it all to stop so badly I even thought of suicide, for which I wasn't capable in my half-paralyzed state. So in my opinion intentions and what you expect of the experience make a really big difference!!! 2. How I treat others, what I mean by that is all beings, not just humans. If my consciousness is not clear, experience is much more shallow and keeps me in a loop for a very long time. Not very amusing nor productive. Speaking of fasting -it's a bad idea IME, I feel very exhausted during such journeys, and true visions kick in only if I decide to eat something - usually it's a banana, my perfect fruit when altered  it's peels contain tyramine, but I also ate cheese before rue and never had problems. I don't think it works the same for everyone, and this all is based strictly on my own experience, but I still hope it helps  thanks for the reply, I plan to smoke my dmt so fasting isn't needed really. I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention in fact everything I write here is a lie !
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universecannon wrote:infinitynlove wrote: do you folks find that meditation and / or other calming / relaxing exercises helps one have a more positive trip?
Absolutely, without a doubt. For me, its usually all about trying to enter the psychedelic state while in as calm and coherent a consciousness as possible. The better i do that, the more coherent, meaningful, mind blowing, and tangible the experience seems to be. A bit of yoga followed by meditation before dmt is a beautiful thing. I usually don't even do it without some calming pranayama type stuff first I really like the sound of this!!! this is what I would love to do before taking a breakthrough dose! I am also planning to meditate much more in the days running up to the event  I am thinking maybe meditate for 30 mins, stop and take 3 hits! thanks for the reply, I am happy to hear meditation makes a difference to the trip, I bet your trips are beautiful, this fits right into my lifestyle and path. Awesome! thank you for the advice! I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention in fact everything I write here is a lie !
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wearepeople wrote:I find a nice colon cleanse before any psychedelic greatly enhances the experience and reduces my worries about digestion issues during the trip.
As far as sex goes, I find that pent up sexual energy can negatively impact the trip. For example, when I'm pent up, I sometimes get lower back pain. I do a sort of colon cleanse about every 6 weeks, the same blood that flows round your colon flows round your brain, so this makes total sense that the blood absorbing all the food isn't absorbing any compacted feces before it flows around your brain. clean and toxin free = more natural brain. I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention in fact everything I write here is a lie !
I hope in some way, my posts and replies may of helped you, I hope you like what I have said here if not feel free to send me a none flame PM
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cosmic butterfly wrote:interesting question. First there's the mental preparation, which i think best to just focus on letting go not having a "god head experience", try not to go in with expectations or give in to astonishment as mckenna often said, thought will hold u back. Meditation is also an amazing tool, as is intent.As for the physical preparation i found a big difference in what i eat towards how it effects the trip but much more so for oral preparations than smoked dmt. Found if i eat a lot of crappy food the body is more heavy so sort of like an anchor and same with sex. Sex is like putting the body thruogh a tornado and many shamans say and i found truth in it also has a lot to do with smells and communication with the spirits. The more healthy i am and more abstain from sex the more a kind of sweet smell emanating from the body and it is your smell that can attract or detract certain kinds of spirits. Also besides supplying more vital energy , sensitizing you to the plants/substances, abstaining from sex and certain foods, i found the spirit able to easier roam free because it sort of loosens the ties between the physical and spiritual bodies. These points are why i think all the restrictions exist in traditional dietas. But again this is more for oral preparations and none of it is required for a god head experience just in my experience found helped. that sounds like a clean way of living and a good way to approach any path, I believe what you do in order to take DMT can only heighten your experiences, healthy body healthy mind! Peace I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention in fact everything I write here is a lie !
I hope in some way, my posts and replies may of helped you, I hope you like what I have said here if not feel free to send me a none flame PM
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