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Kalagan
#21 Posted : 1/28/2013 9:48:26 PM

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Definitely not crazy man, plenty of people out there do feel the same way, including the fellas around here and myself.
But maybe that's a good thing, because now is clearly a time where more individuals realize the dysfunctional aspects of our modern societies, and the fact that many people like you start thinking like this is the first sign that maybe change is on it's way indeed.

After all, for things to get better you need enough people to realize how bad things are first.

I do believe that to some extend nearly everyone, especially people from the latest generations, are aware of this, at least as a notion. And the current young generations will replace the old one in charge at the moment, and that could trigger some important changes in global behavior.

And let's be cautious about the claims of the breatharians, I heard about that indian man (Prahlad Jani) and the first test results were most definitely impressive but for some reason there is nothing about him since when it started in 2010, although more tests were planned.
I also checked "Jasmuheen" soon after that but unlike Prahlad Jani she is without a doubt a fraud and a liar..

Does anyone have news on the indian man? I would be curious to know because even if there was a little manipulation somewhere there, he did show amazing resistance to hunger.
 

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#22 Posted : 1/28/2013 10:16:39 PM

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Have you ever watched into the wild it may inspire you. peace.




GroundSound wrote:
Hello nexus,

I have not been on here in some time, i have been dealing with things, but i am excited to be back!

I have been thinking awhile, and it's usually when i don't take my ssri medication ( i ran out three days ago and couldn't get some, i have to get them tomorrow) that i start thinking my hardest.

My thoughts are jumbled. I know they fit together, but it's like a puzzle. i can't find which piece goes with which piece. i can't put my thoughts in a correct fashion, to form a central idea. I want to do this, but there is this and this and this and this and this that stop's that from happening, all the while i know my heart wants this.

Am i crazy?
Maybe so.


I just want to go away. I want to leave this corporate world, i don't want to work for this government, i don't want to see propaganda, i don't want to live like every other american does, chasing the american dream, i want nature. i believe i need nature. This world has forgotten so much of who we are and where we stand in life, where we truly stand, where we truly came from, and what truly matters.

It sickens me, this modern world, industrialization, the destruction of the world we are so luckily allowed to live on, people claiming it, destroying it, putting a price tag on everything that exists as if this world is ours. As if it belongs to us.

I always think, day after day, none of this matters. I see the struggle that people go through, with money problems, obstacles they strain themselves to go through just to be "successive" in the eyes of the community, in the eyes of the government, so that they can work and pay just to survive. To lavish in the materialistic world. It fogs their mind. I don't want to be these people. I don't want to kiss the ass's of dressed up pigs (see animal farm).

It may be crazy, and i most likely will never do it, but i always imagine myself just going away. Just going somewhere, into the wilderness, and living. To get in touch with nature, to get in touch with myself, and to forget everything which fogs our minds. I want to be in the mountains. As ancient people used to do. I wish i could change this world. But i can't. I shouldn't have to conform to what every american is being forced to do, being forced through this system. I don't know what to do. i hate this. But none of it matters, in the end. The only thing i know that matters to me is love. You can't buy it, it was not created by anything, it is natural, and has been since the beginning of time. I think love is the most powerful thing, and that we should focus on it. It's not here for no reason, we love for a reason, maybe it continues after. Nobody knows. I just know that love has more importance than anything, and maybe the world needs love. A lot of it.

 
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#23 Posted : 1/28/2013 10:41:53 PM

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Wow, I was JUST having this conversation with a friend of mine. It simply started with the idea that it's nearly impossible to purchase MHRB now. They are trying to take away from us what we found to be a powerful healer, guide and teacher. One that opens the mind to the concepts we were born with and conditioned to ignore.

We must never give up in what we believe. As voyaj stated, there's a reason the world is the way it is now, and it is constantly evolving. I may not know what that reason really is, but I can speculate this:

The longer a force tries to repress, the faster and more explosive the outcome will be. Like that of a rubber band. It will snap and watch out when it does. I feel this is where I am. I feel it. I live it.

And with that, I feel the same. I want to leave. I want to go. I want to run away from the forces created by humanity that quite literally repress us. But then I remember... I'm here to fight it within it's own rules and structure. I may move to the jungle, I may find a remote place on Earth that I can live the rest of my days in peace, but in doing so, I will have not done much for the world by removing myself from it. I will continue to strive for what I believe in, to live my life on my own terms. Just because there's a force that makes your own terms difficult does not mean it is impossible. We have infinite possibilities flowing around us always.

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#24 Posted : 1/28/2013 10:58:05 PM

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donohue100 wrote:
Have you ever watched into the wild it may inspire you. peace.

i wouldn't consider Christopher McCandless a good example of this. in fact, he is a good example of what NOT to do.. somewhat a subject of mockery up here in the harsh alaska wilds.

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-He had a map with him. This map showed the Denali park road about 10 miles away from the bus where he stayed. It wouldn't have been an easy hike, but it was certainly doable … especially considering it's over 20 miles to get to the bus by the route he originally took.

-He poached a moose and let the whole thing rot. This means he was attempted to hike off into the middle of nowhere, thinking he would hunt to survive, without any idea how to preserve meat.

-The river he crossed to get to the bus in the first place has a good seasonal run of grayling (fish). One person can quite easily build a fishwheel (out of nothing but the trees around him) that would basically allow you to scoop fish straight out of the river (a traditional technique used by the natives here - said to be of chinese origin - it is a very commonly known method among almost all alaskans). He also could have taken some birch branches, tied them into a cone with spruce roots, and made a dip-net, which is REALLY efficient at catching fish. He even had a fishing pole on his person, and either did not think to fish the river, or did not successfully do so (which is somewhat baffling either way)

-He tried to hike back out at one point, but noted that the water level had risen enough that he could no longer cross the river safely. This indicates that he wanted to get out of there when he was still well enough to hike 20+ miles back the way he came … remember the map? and the Denali park road only 10 miles in another direction from the bus?

-Less than a mile downstream on the river in question, there is a manual tram he could have used to cross. There is also a spot about a mile upstream where the riverbed "braids" and the water is much shallower … also a spot he could have crossed. He apparently walked neither up nor downstream while trying to cross (this is in spite of his possession of a map).

-There is no indication whatsoever that he ate anything poisonous. The wild potato seeds branded as toxic in the book turned out not to be poisonous at all. The book was published before the full lab analysis was completed. Also, he did not mistake the potatoes for wild sweet peas. He knew what he was eating.

-He left an SOS note taped to one of the bus windows saying he was injured and too weak to hike out and needed help (while his autopsy revealed no sign of injury). The SOS note was evidently not shown in the movie.

Fact is, McCandless was at the bus plenty long enough to starve to death naturally, and during the later stages of starvation, delirium, disorientation and physical weakness are severe (remember that he thought he was badly injured himself when he actually wasn't). This means once you reach the "tipping point" of starvation, as it were, you're unable to effectively hunt or forage any more, which greatly accelerates the final stages of death.


Peter Christian(park ranger) wrote:
"When you consider McCandless from my perspective, you quickly see that what he did wasn't even particularly daring, just stupid, tragic, and inconsiderate. First off, he spent very little time learning how to actually live in the wild. He arrived at the Stampede Trail without even a map of the area [apparently a map was discovered on his person (with no compass), which would seem to indicate he just did not know how to use it]. If he [had] had a good map he could have walked out of his predicament [... ] Essentially, Chris McCandless committed suicide."


I agree with his sentiment (and i did think the movie was good - if misleading), but i think he is a good example of why you should do your homework first.
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#25 Posted : 1/28/2013 11:08:05 PM

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You don't need to live alone on top of a mountain to be tranquil and live a positive, healthy life Smile
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#26 Posted : 1/28/2013 11:37:33 PM

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Hey bro, I can relate to you. Right now I'm in community college in my freshman year. I am a nature lover, and can't stand the ignorance and destruction of this beautiful world that is all around. I'm just going for two years for now to get my associates in biology, then travelling for a while hitchiking, learning from and teaching others along the way, probably visit and stay with some communes... stuff like that.

As I type this I am listening to Medicine for the People. Their music really touches me and I think you might like it as well, so here's a link if you want to check them out. They can help ya thru some hard times while you're in Babylon wishing to be "out there."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsY38YBHJJk
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In darkest night, when lights are dim, and all in sight seems sad and grim,
I find you there, your arms surround me, your spirit fills me and it grounds me.
I look to you, Lady of Truth, most ancient One, yet eternal youth,to keep me safe, protect my heart,and with the wisdom you impart, fill up my empty mind and soul,so that, my Lover, you can make whole, all that was broken in this day –and that is what I ask and pray.
 
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#27 Posted : 1/29/2013 1:04:32 AM

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I find going into a natural forest or beach or anywhere away from society to be quite liberating and rejuvenating, however in a sense cities and all their pollution and such is a part of nature, theres a lot of "i want to leave society and cities forever and go live in small cottage growing potato's" and if that brings you joy and excitement for your life go for it, but my 2 cents is that most will never do this or be prepared to do it for any real length of time and those that do will either be dependent upon society anyways or will come back no time at all, either that or succumb to the harsh forces of reality.

I live a life of peace and fulfillment in a city and do not feel 'repressed' by any society created forces. just like a hive is to bees or a hill is to termites we create villages, towns, cities, super cities...with all the chemicals and garbage and pollution.. that is natural nature because here it is... happening in the natural world. yes it is sad the way we've built it up by destroying so many land and sea animals right into extinction and polluted air/land/ocean but you moving to a jungle doesn't really change the outcome of any of that, you can create just as much as a impact by your choices from where you physically are right now.
 
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#28 Posted : 1/29/2013 4:08:05 AM

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We're all in the school of life.
Some in first grade but some doing a PhD in the University of life. We're not all the same age you know.
I've been doing a difficult course the last 2 years. Looking forward for holidays Smile Feel like there's around 2-3 months left of that course Smile
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#29 Posted : 1/29/2013 1:46:37 PM
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I can relate to what you say, but as been said before my perspective changed slightly after my last psychedelic experience. Needless to say, I learned to be a much more humble man, for we are all surrounded by people who were put here for us. I for one, wouldn't dare ditch these people and leave them alone in this world.
 
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#30 Posted : 1/29/2013 4:18:09 PM

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Farming and living straight of nature is hard work. It's more than just taking care of some flowers.
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#31 Posted : 1/29/2013 4:34:39 PM

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thats all well and good and a lack of those things would be grand but what happens when your crops dont come in? or the tribe next door comes and steals all your grub? or you break your ankle?

dont get me wrong i would love to escape the rat race as much as the next man but i think the idea is wrapped up in a very romantic blanket and the reality of the situation would be very different.

unless you can find some kind of garden of eden where you can pluck apples off the trees whenever you feel hungry i think it would be a pretty hardcore lifestyle.

it would be good if Icehouse saw this thread as i know he has done alot of work on his homestead, i dont know if he goes to work as well as runs his homestead but he seems well into the self sustaining lifestyle and probably has a better idea than most of what it is like.
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#32 Posted : 1/29/2013 6:19:29 PM

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Well with the advent of alternative social system proposals, incredible technologies such as agricultural towers, 3D printing(contour crafting, memory metals), Automation and technological unemployment, dozens of renewable clean extremely powerful energies, incredible new scientific,spiritual,social and medical understandings there is so much to look forward too. I've had urges to just run off but i feel now its more clever to intervene where i can. I now also accept i equally love technology and nature so i can't run off from both all together, i would love to see the world where we actually integrate them intelligently(it is the only way we will survive anyhow).

I get a bit pissed off sometimes. It seems to me that we are already in the depths of hell and the worse it gets, the more people get pissed off and talk about the incredible possibilities of what is to come if we just fricken do it. As more people understand and see how completely stupid we operate and see most things today, then we are not far away from a truly amazing place for everybody.
 
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#33 Posted : 1/29/2013 7:40:55 PM

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DMTripper wrote:
Farming and living straight of nature is hard work. It's more than just taking care of some flowers.


Exactly and that is why it is important to live at least in small community of people that are on the same frequency. You live together and help each other.

If you are on you own it would be indeed very hard work.
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#34 Posted : 1/29/2013 8:27:31 PM

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^^^ Thanks for the valuable information!! I have always known this to be true. I think it's easy to live in an idealistic mindset, until you've actually done it. I've survived in the wilderness for the better part of a week. It's no month, but it definitely taught me how nice a warm bed and electricity is.

I think the biggest thing that people don't realize is, living in a city sucks serious ass. I have lived in the country, and the city, and much prefer the country. I have been to cities I like, but I'll be damned if I live in one the rest of my life. I think even most people that like city living are taxed by it in some way or other.

I tripped in Olympic National Forest last fall on mushrooms. I definitely felt the pull of just wandering off into the wild. I wanted to so bad! But I knew it would not only be tough as hell, it would be nearly impossible in the physical shape I'm in, and the tools I had. There's no sustainable living in most of the world, unless you really know the vegetation, the animals, resources, and have grown up living in such a way.

Living on a farm, or a small community is the closest one can get to "the simple life". And even that is still a pain in the ass! I bet 99.9% of people who tried to live as OM has done, would come back to society. And there's nothing wrong with that!!

We should just try to make our world here better, rather than running off. I still want to run off, though.Big grin

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#35 Posted : 1/29/2013 9:36:35 PM

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What i've been pondering is how difficult it would be to get together a community of people who want to live this "simple life" off the grid, and to make it a cooperative effort.

Certainly not in a rainforest, but perhaps someone has some land, or knows someone with land. There are houses that you can build pretty cheaply that are basically self sufficient, self heating, self cooling, and stay approx 70 degree's constantly. They collect and filter rainwater for everyday usage and there are other benefits like the lack of a utility bill.

I can't even begin to think about how complex it would be to accomplish this in a communal type of fashion, plus depending on the chosen location for this type of community there may be legal/tax implications of some sort. I know nothing about the legality or true possibility of an idea like this working. But it is something i've been thinking about alot lately.

The internet is a great gathering place to share ideas and bring people together. We better use it to the fullest to connect and share information before the government clamps come down on it to a point where it is no longer possible.

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#36 Posted : 1/29/2013 9:52:26 PM

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Well you do not have to look very far. There are many here that would like to live just like that. Maybe one day we will get together and maybe, live together as one family. It only takes one thing : decision

You are not the only dreamer here , there are many including me Smile




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#37 Posted : 1/29/2013 10:43:14 PM

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smokerx wrote:
You are not the only dreamer here , there are many including me Smile

i hope some day you'll join us.. and the world can live as one.

olympus mon wrote:
Living in the rain forest or any forest off grid is hugely challenging.That is until you have to haul water from the Amazon river a 1/4 mile up hill to water your garden, forage and then chop firewood for your meals

would constructing irrigation ditches be feasible? i would assume some gravity-fed trenches lined with wood would well be worth the time to construct it (say, 4 months?).
also if it rains so much, is watering a garden necessary?

i chop firewood where i live anyways, so i have no complaints with that, the other stuff doesn't sound pleasant, but the amazon never seemed all that appealing to me (i just want a good climate for plants where i can be left alone - wherever that may be).
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#38 Posted : 1/30/2013 12:52:44 AM


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Splifey has left us, so I cleaned up this thread. Carry on!
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#39 Posted : 1/30/2013 12:56:11 AM

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Thanks a1pha!

I wish splifey the best. He's got a rough journey ahead (assuming that wasn't all just a big troll).

What I wanted to say to get the thread back on track, and is still relevant:

I think the source of these feelings of fleeing society probably come from the general BS of society, and the dissonance that abounds. We are told so many things that conflict with each other, it makes the mind anxious and fearful. Take Christmas for example, it's supposedly about family, and yet we are incessantly badgered to buy stuff. Which is it? Family, or stuff?

Once you start to look around, you'll see all of the contradictions our society has to offer.

Once you've done that, look at all of the good it has to offer. The modern world does not hold value in what it has done, but in its potential, what it can be able to accomplish, and hopefully do away with the bad.

We are communicating by pushing electrons down wires into magic boxes. I've never personally met any of you (that I know of). How crazy is that?!

What do you want? Do you want to be a high power money making machine, working for a hollow goal? Or do you want to find a simple life, whatever that may be, and simply be happy and live? Don't forget, there's always a carrot to chase. Just find the one that's the most fun to go after.
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olympus mon
#40 Posted : 1/30/2013 12:58:13 AM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
smokerx wrote:
You are not the only dreamer here , there are many including me Smile

i hope some day you'll join us.. and the world can live as one.

olympus mon wrote:
Living in the rain forest or any forest off grid is hugely challenging.That is until you have to haul water from the Amazon river a 1/4 mile up hill to water your garden, forage and then chop firewood for your meals

would constructing irrigation ditches be feasible? i would assume some gravity-fed trenches lined with wood would well be worth the time to construct it (say, 4 months?).
also if it rains so much, is watering a garden necessary?

i chop firewood where i live anyways, so i have no complaints with that, the other stuff doesn't sound pleasant, but the amazon never seemed all that appealing to me (i just want a good climate for plants where i can be left alone - wherever that may be).

The river is below the village so it would require pumps, pumps, require gas, gas costs money. Man power is free.
There are 2 seasons wet and dry in the wet the rain takes care of gardens but in the dry your ass is hauling up water in areas without modern infrastructural luxury's like water and sewage. aka small villages.
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