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#281 Posted : 1/21/2013 10:44:43 AM
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Is this an acacia? Location is North Sydney. Thanks!

i am no expert, by any means. but i am almost positive those are leaves, not phyllodes.

..well said ParshvikSmile..and acacian..

cave paintings..that's really interesting..looks a bit like melanoxylon, but it isn't..you got me there for now..i'll have a think..

& changalvia..i'd say you've got a Poinciana there..
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#282 Posted : 1/24/2013 7:57:01 AM
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The number of leaflets and constrictions on the fruit aren't what I'd anticipate on rigidula. I've seen it be incredibly variable in appearance though so I'll dig a bit and come back to this.
 
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#283 Posted : 1/26/2013 8:37:51 PM
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Hi,

Four or five years ago we had some plumbing work done at the back of the holiday house, (Shoalhaven area of NSW south coast), and a year later I noticed some acacias had popped up from the damaged earth.

They've been growing nicely in the years since, and I was amazed to see how big they'd got over the last twelve months. I'm guessing Acacia longifolia - can anyone confirm? Photos taken around New Year's.

Thanks!

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#284 Posted : 1/29/2013 12:02:35 AM
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greedings ,i could use some support here,Swim found this acacia in his area, he has compare it with some google images and seems to be acacia mearnsii but cant tell for sure ,he has alrdy extracted from MHRB in the past.How safe is it to test this extraction?
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#285 Posted : 1/29/2013 12:05:24 AM

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mn1k that actually isn't an acacia in that photo I believe it is Paraserianthes Lophantha

 
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#286 Posted : 1/29/2013 2:39:59 AM
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..yes acacian's right, not an acacia..

i really recommend people spend a bit of time looking a photos of species, trying to read acacia books, if they really want to get the most out of this thread..
Acacias are really more about Acacias than dmt! although they are linked..

ooo0ooo..that does look like A. longifolia...the straightness of the pod and cream aril are indicative of possible tryptamine traits.. (as are paler or denser flower) ..would've liked to have seen the flowers..
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#287 Posted : 1/29/2013 12:33:53 PM
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Thanks nen - I appreciate the response!

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#288 Posted : 2/1/2013 7:06:44 AM
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Would someone be able to help me out with these two?
The seed pods from the first one I don't recognize; and the second I couldn't find any sign of flowers or seed pods but the phyllodes (pretty they are phyllodes anyways) are serrated and that's new to me too.








 
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#289 Posted : 2/1/2013 8:15:56 AM
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^..Snurry, giving the area/region helps speed up ID..the first i would say is in the Acacia aulacocarpa group which also includes A. crassicarpa, A. lamprocarpa , A. midgleyi and the New Guinean A. peregrina..

the second, with the serrated leaves, are i think leaves, and not an acacia..
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#290 Posted : 2/1/2013 10:19:21 AM
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Sorry bout that. Richmond area of the Far North Coast.
I thought that might be the case with the second one. The leaves are a lot more delicate than all the acacia's I've seen.

I could only find a A. leptocarpa and the seed pods don't seem to match.
The A. midgleyi seed pods look pretty good, but a bit more twisted. And WWW says they're only in the NT.
The A. crassicarpa looks like a good match though.


It looks just like that, but young.a
 
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#291 Posted : 2/1/2013 10:30:12 AM
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^..yeah i'll ponder it more..it's a real interesting looking one Snurry..Smile
 
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#292 Posted : 2/2/2013 3:13:39 AM
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Back with more! Smile
nen, if it helps with the last one I'm fairly certain it's been planted by a person so it could be from a species not known in my area.








That first one interests me a lot. I thought those type of seed pods were only on bottlebrushes but the flowers don't look anything like a bottlebrush (by the way, any info regarding any active alkaloid content in the common red Callistemon?) so I'm not sure what it could be.






The flowers on this second one remind me of melanoxylon but the flower pods seem to be concentrated before the phyllodes, not spread throughout.



I'm not sure if anyone will be able to help with this 3rd shot.
There is a fair few acacia's around like this one. They aren't bottlebrushes, and none of them are showing any signs of flowering this time of year. The tree is a paperbark though, so that puts me off thinking it's an acacia, but I'm not well versed by any means.



These next ones are just for fun if anyone can identify, I'd like to know what they are every time I go past them.



This looks a lot like the bottle brushes around the area except though those red flowering ends seem to be unique to that tree.


I'm unsure if these are acacia's. Apologies if they aren't but the leaf type intrigued me.



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Also, I was going to ask this in the extraction workplace but it won't let me reply.
As far as alkaloid content I heard it was best to sun dry phyllodes for up to 3 months for best results. Would there really be much of a difference between a box of phyllodes dried in under a week, compared to 3 months?
 
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the only one which is an acacia is the second one, looks like diphylla, but would need flowers and seeds for a proper id
 
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yeah and diphylla has much shorter and broader phyllodes... i doubt that would be. diphylla is very close in appearance to mangium
 
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#295 Posted : 2/4/2013 7:29:13 AM
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hahaha so what the difference between phyllodes and just thick leaves cause I'll be stuffed if I can tell the difference.
But I'd say a gum tree was an acacia if I didn't already know.

That second one you're talking about has a menthol/eucalypt sort of smell. Not real strong, but it's there.
 
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#296 Posted : 2/4/2013 3:52:57 PM

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Its probably better to familiarise with well known acacias before going out and trying to identify lots of plants. It isn't as straightforward as just going out in search of acacias randomly and expecting to find DMT. It's not a fast track option getting to know acacias. Botanical gardens a good place to start.
 
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#297 Posted : 2/6/2013 10:15:58 AM

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Hi guys,
Got 2 suspects here,
1) unsure if Victoriae or Murrayana, but got seed and seed pods this time.
The seed colouring and location specifics, make me think it would have to be Victoriae, but failed tests a few months ago :/
2) almost sure it's Cyclops, but hope for a confirmation before I try another extraction *crosses fingers!*
Tasted considerably more bitter when I chewed it (going on nen888's tips) than other leaves.
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Snapped a couple pictures in passing of this guy, apologize for poor quality. Never seen this one around before, didn't even notice it til it bloomed over this weekend. Much more of a tree compared to all the bushier kinds normally around. Foliage is very mesquite-like.
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#299 Posted : 2/7/2013 9:05:33 AM
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..re shanedudddy's first pic in #295, i would say it's Not A. victoriae, based on the seeds and phyllode (of other photos earlier)..the seeds should be noticeably 'mottled' (speckled) and the phyllode has a prominent central vein..i have attached key ID images in the info thread..

it is probably A. alexandri , A. aphanoclada , A. chartacea , A. cuspidifolia , A. dempsteri , A. glaucocaesia , A. pickardii , A. ryaniana , or A. synchronicia ( the ‘A. victoriae group’ ) but i don't have time to go through each one..

the cyclopsy candidate does look like cyclops..it can have variation between more arid forms and more coastal forms..but it is not unlike one form of melanoxylon..a few more photos showing more of tree, plus close-up phyllode, and close-up of seed aril in pod would help..if all flower balls are in pairs is cyclops..it already has suggestion of variability naturalised in sth africa (low after rain) so good luck with experiment..
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