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VIII
#1 Posted : 1/23/2013 4:56:34 AM

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I'm curious if or how anybody else integrates their DMT and other psychedelic experiences through the arts. Whether it be artistic expression or impressions. How has it helped you integrate your experiences? Have the arts helped you integrate godhead experiences?


While all of the arts have been amazing for my integration, music has always had a major role in my life and has likely developed many aspects of myself. Some of my history/perspective... (apologies for the length, TL;DR=music helped me integrate)...

Since I smoked weed for the first time I felt music was enhanced and I would "vibe" with certain songs. Lay in bed late at night after smoking 2-3 hits of cannabis in the backyard and somehow walking my majorly-stoned self past my parents, to my bed, one step and 10 paranoid thoughts at a time.

Shut off the lights, get cozy, turn on the tunes. I can still vaguely picture some of the intense closed-eye visuals I would get to the music. Radiohead - Electioneering performing live in my head at the most incredible show I'd ever imagined but never attended. One night I remember listening to a Red Hot Chili Peppers song followed up by Tool - The Patient and whatever visuals I was seeing made complete sense and I could swear that these two songs were talking to each other.

Just a couple of the many experiences. At the time I was 13 so I wasn't even very familiar with myself and now was processing being "high" was so this didn't provide any personal revelations about the nature of the visuals or anything of that sort. It was just weird, fun, stigmatized in my schools in a way that broke a worldview when I smoked it for the first time, and that got me really curious.

Getting to the point, I listen to a crap-ton of music and have done so since before I smoked weed. I always liked certain songs because they made me "feel good," they were my "style," and I felt I could relate to something even though the context appears to not always fit. I felt the music had soul.

What I've found very interesting along my psychedelic journey is how my perspective on songs changed in various ways. Specifically in relation to the use of the terms: I, you, me, Him, Her, mother, father, etc.
With all of the recent godhead threads and some personal psychedelic experiences integrating together in some way, "I" kind of started looking at it like "my" perspective is rooted at the godhead("me" ) with branches extending outwards from any decision "I" have made (I acknowledge there maybe more to it, not my focus here) and towards a new point. I've been looking at these new points as infinite potential (moments to be, my future) and I have labeled them as uncertainty points (or infinity jesters) to avoid applying any certainty to them. Considering "I" am created by this infinite potential, each branch of my decision tree can grow, mature, connect with another point, create a new idea, develop a form, pattern, entity, city, world, universe.

Since taking this perspective a lot of songs have been making a whole different sort of sense. The kind of sense that makes you smile and dance and laugh and love life. It may be because these artists are "on drugs," but I prefer to think of it as in contact with themselves. Especially since as a child I had less rigid worldviews and no drug experience and I could feel these songs make sense to me then on a deep level. Also what came to mind was that one night I remember listening to a Red Hot Chili Peppers song followed up by Tool - The Patient and whatever visuals I was seeing made complete sense and I could swear that these two songs were talking to each other.
I also completely perceived a number of the songs on a language level incorrectly, however. Mistook expression of joy for fear/sadness/paranoia on a number of occasions. Sounds unbelievable and I can't believe I did, but it is what it is.

Anyways, a lot of songs that have started making more sense by overlaying them with my current perspective on the godhead. This in turn helps me understand myself better. If you are looking for a route for integration, I would certainly recommend checking out the arts and the reflection on yourself.

The song that made me finally post this: Elliott Smith - Junk Bond Trader
I used to see Elliott in a light very unfitting for him. He helped me through many hard times, but I didn't understand him.

I think this song is about the godhead/uncertainty points/infinity jesters, the dangers of assumptions, and the power of acceptance, loving yourself and expression.
Elliott Smith - Junk Bond Trader wrote:
The imitation picks you up like a habit
writing in the glow of the TV's static
taking out the trash to the man
give the people something they understand

A stickman flashing a fine line smile
Junk bond trader trying to sell a sucker a style
Rich man in a poor man's clothes
The permanent installment of the daily dose
And you tell off when you tell it like it is
Your world's no wider that your hatred of his

And you tell off when you tell it like it is
Your world's no wider that your hatred of his
Checking into a small reality
Boring as a drug you take too regularly

The apple needs to laugh, the broken crutch
The first true love that folded at the slightest touch
Brought down like an old hotel
People digging through the rubble for things they can resell

"Happy holidays," said Sid the Saviour
Believe in love I still favour
I won't take your medicine
I don't need a remedy

To be everything i'm supposed to be
I don't want nobody else
I can do it by myself
We're meant to be together

Now I'm a policeman directing traffic
Keeping everything moving, everything static
I'm the hitchhiker you recognize passing
On your way to some everlasting...

Better sell it while you can
Better sell it while you can
Better sell it while you can
Better sell it while you can


I think this may sound familiar for some.
Elliott Smith - Memory Lane wrote:
this is the place
you'll end up when
you lose the chase
where you’re dragged against your will
from a basement on the hill

and all anybody knows is
you're not like them
and they kick you in the head
and send you back to bed

isolation pulled you pass a tunnel to a
bright world where you can make a place to stay
but everybody's scared of this place
they're staying away
your little house on memory lane

the mayor's name is fear
his force patrols the pier
from a mountain of cliche
that advances everyday

the doctor spoke a cloud
he rained out loud
you’ll keep your doors and windows shut
and swear you'll
never show a soul again
but isolation pushes you ‘til every muscle aches
down the only road it ever takes

but everybody's scared of this place
they're staying away
your little house on memory lane

if it's your decision
to be open about yourself
be careful or else
be careful or else

uncomfortable apart
it's all written on my chart
and i take what's given to me
most cooperatively

i do what people say
and lie in bed all day
absolutely horrified
i hope you're satisfied

isolation pushes past self hatred, guilt and shame
to a place where suffering is just a game
but everybodys scared of this place
they're staying away

your little house on memory lane
your little house on memory lane


Just a small selection from a single artist. I never understood the beauty of these songs in their fullness (or fuller-ness), it's a trip. Almost anything by Aesop Rock will fit the bill, Jay Munly, The Faint, Tool (pushit), etc, etc (artists. Interesting perspective to look from. Honestly, it appears every song I "vibe with" has this connection of (mis/proper) association. Like the godhead was expressed well enough to maintain some of its infinite perspective from the roots of being. It just feels more physical and real hearing it in many songs than the concept of oneness I had hanging around in my mind before.
I'm not really sure where to go with this perspective, but it has been very interesting and I may follow it around a bit. Physical templates of experience take a load off the mind. The atmosphere of music and direction of vocals lets my thoughts flow.

Has anybody had similar experience? Or another story to share?



The inner soul is full of joy. Reveal my secrets and sew me whole. With each day, "I" heeds your call.
You may not care the slightest and may not be the brightest, but from here "I" sees you're mighty for you created it all.

And the jumbling sea rose above the wall.

Through this chaos comes the order you enthrall.
 

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Global
#2 Posted : 1/23/2013 2:26:45 PM

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Here's some lyrics to some songs I've written. Please try and excuse the syllable count and chords in the margins.

Quote:
Would you recognize your messiah if you saw him in the mirror? 17 Am Dm
Could you turn around, and start your life anew? 11 F7 E
Can you see your God in the dirt on the floor? 11Am
Would you discern the universe from the paint on the walls? 14 Dm
If you only knew the messiah is you 11 F7 E

“Save me,” they scream 4 Am
“Rapture me,” they plead 5 Dm
Stop waiting around 5 F7
“Save yourself,” I decree 6 E

“Save me,” they scream 4 Am
“Rapture me,” they plead 5 Dm
You’ll have to wake up 5 F7
Open your eyes and you’ll see 7 E G7

Formations of [water] droplets on the steamy glass 13 [11] Cm
Iridescent splotches [of oil] in the parking lot 13 [11] Fm
Configurations of fractals concealed in the grass 13 Ab7
Or the cellular grid inherent in a blood clot 13 G
What you thought once was chaos, now seems not so crass 12 Cm Fm Ab7 G

“Save me,” they scream 4 Cm
“Rapture me,” they plead 5 Fm
Stop waiting around 5 Ab7
“Save yourself,” I decree 6 G

“Save me,” they scream 4 Cm
“Rapture me,” they plead 5 Fm
You’ll have to wake up 5 Ab7
Open your eyes and you’ll see 7 G Ab7 G

Solo [Cm Fm Ab7 G] x2


Quote:
[Intro]
{4/4}
I can see, but you are blind
Through the veil, a shapeshifting mime
Folding, Floating, Buzzing so fine
Hologram in time

[Chorus]
{12/8}
You can’t conceive it. You’ll never believe it
So you deem it illegal, and cage us for being
But that’s never worked, it only puts on the breaks
Cycles of sleep and awakening ensure such fate

[interlude]

[guitar solo]

[Chorus]
You can’t conceive it. You’ll never believe it
So you deem it illegal, and cage us for being
But that’s never worked, it only puts on the breaks
Cycles of sleep and awakening ensure such fate

[Verse]
The sound of a rocket, it’s a ride not of life
No body, no seatbelt, can’t hold on tight
Expand through dimensions, this is the end
Of all that you know, it’s infinite my friend

[guitar solo]

[groove/jam]
{4/4}

[Outro]
I can be both you and I
I have been and will be on both sides of life
Folding, Floating, Buzzing sublime


"The N,Nth Dimension" (short poem)
Quote:

What am I seeing? 5
How can this be? 4
Extra spacial planes 5
And plasma chains 5
Immersing me 4
So let me be clear 5
Elixir through veins 5
Or drinking our tea 5
Will make you free 4
Just don’t go insane 5


Quote:
Superceding the planes in which we dwell 10 Em A
Accessed via harsh vaporized potions 10 C G
Suspended in seas of charge 7 Cm
Abounds a translucent barge 7 Bm
Soaring in hyper-locomotion 9 Gdim7 Ab GM7 B7sus4/E (021200)


Swimming gyroscopically amidst the aether 12 CM7 Em
Squealing automated sequences of delight 12 G F#7 C F
Flying synchronistically without even a feather 13 CM7 Em
Seeing atoms mating illuminates the night 12 G F/C C F


Ultra-cybernetics and all their mechanics 12 D7
Cogs and gears revolving in space 8 G7
Biomagnetic forces and plasma cymatics 13 C7 D7
Within the reach of the human race 8 A7 B7


Quantum fields of possibility 9 Em A
Waver to reveal the schematics 9 C G
Of universal code 6 Cm
and geometric modes 6 Bm
A favor from the aristocratic 10 Gdim7 Ab GM7 B7sus4/E


They linger in a mansion 7 Em A
Laying inert in the den 7 C G
A vaulted ceiling hangs 6 C (guitar harmonies - swelling into “hangs”)
Above this interstellar gang 8 G
Creating a weightless play pen 8 E (7) D B7


Swimming gyroscopically amidst the aether 12 CM7 Em
Squealing automated sequences of delight 12 G F#7 C F
Flying out of body with a silver tether 12 CM7 Em
Seeing atoms mating illuminates the night 12 F G E7/G# Am


Transcending dualities like heaven and hell 12 Em A
Can be cleansing on the soul 7 C G
Cause life as is loved and known 7 Cm
Is oft lived in monotone 7 Bm
Living beyond...I said living beyond is my goal 13 Gdim7 Ab Gdim7 Db/Ab Ab7 Db


Quote:
See the colorful beings at play
Spectral animation
Via sonic configurations
Yields our phototorium maze

A picture perfect suite of tones
A pitch perfect display of color
Synthesizing succinct synaesthetic sensoriums
A dwelling like no other

It’s a tone acrobat
Gliding and torquing with computer precision
A dark blue acrobat at that
Spotting another tone, there is a collision

A combinative entity they create
A multi-colored chord in a procession
We’ve moved an octave up
Not in notes, but in dimensions

It was much akin to a doll house
But this doll house is now a mansion
Green and pink books on the shelf
Toys strewn on the floor by a comfy bed
Create this child’s room abstraction

A lavish crawlspace delivers us
To a most spacious living area
There’s more room to fly here
So up the spire higher and higher
Through the power of a colorful aria

Our time’s almost up
But we’re in the next octave yet
This one is an Egyptian temple
Or perhaps Atlantean I’d bet

Chords coalesce into lions
They are musical figurines
Tessilations of turquoise encrusted gold
Adorn the walls in the space betwixt my temples
That the lions patrolled
And that I behold it is obscene


Quote:
Smoke it in the dark
Smoke it in the park
Smoke it in on Mars
It’s all from the bark

Smoke it upside down
Smoke it, see the clown?
Smoke it on the moon
The stars go ‘round n’ ‘round

Smoke it in threes
Smoke it, hear the beezzzz
Smoke it in your room
Ebb and flow as you please

Smoke it watch it melt
Smoke the hand you’re dealt
Wander a Pharaoh’s tomb
All is seen, All is felt

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
BecometheOther
#3 Posted : 1/23/2013 6:41:11 PM

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Hi, I use music to express my feelings and insights of the psychedelic experience. I feel music is a very good medium for this, as when tripping, music takes on a whole new life!

Here is a song i made which is about a very strong experience with bridgesii cactus:



Also you can check out the rest of my songs on the thread i already made on here:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...m=423072&#post423072

Cheers!
You have never been apart from me. You can never depart and never return, for we are continuous, indistinguishable. We are eternal forever
 
VIII
#4 Posted : 1/23/2013 7:29:31 PM

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Global I love them! Any chance of hearing you play/sing some? If I haven't already missed them somewhere.
I dig your style, generated lots of imagery for a fun ride. (and now has got my mind going) Your perspective on the Egyptians has always fascinated me, Ive been seeing things under a new light and the ways of the Egyptians are making much more sense to me. Manifesting their minds into nature's mind. Huge temples, intricate designs, symbols, narratives, traditions (repeated expression/action) with massive structures aligned with the universe. Thanks for sharing them, I have a big smile on now.

BecomeTheOther, I'll check them out. I recall seeing that thread in the past but embedded YouTube is blocked on my mobile so I'm in the same predicament. Ah, scratch that I'll quote you to get the link. Ears open Smile
The inner soul is full of joy. Reveal my secrets and sew me whole. With each day, "I" heeds your call.
You may not care the slightest and may not be the brightest, but from here "I" sees you're mighty for you created it all.

And the jumbling sea rose above the wall.

Through this chaos comes the order you enthrall.
 
Global
#5 Posted : 1/23/2013 8:23:44 PM

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I'm looking into recording these in the near future. I've kept them to myself a bit too long now Big grin


I actually have one reserved special for the Egyptologists out there Twisted Evil Laughing

Quote:
Tell me no lies [Dm]
Stop feeding me lines [A7]
You know we have eyes [Dm (turnaround)]
Yet you mess with our minds [grace D - C#; A]

They don’t want to talk about it [Gm arp]
The subject is rather sore [Dm (sweep/turnaround/D dorian: C - D)]
Cause “pyramidology is for the loons” [Ehalfdim (EGBbD arp)]
Just lemme reassure these old croons [A7 (5-7 fret harmonic tapping)]
The delusions are yours Dm [harmonic minor turn around]

They say show me the evidence [F]
I say what are you blind? [C]
But they dismiss as coincidence [F]
It’s convenient they find [C]

Perfect alignment with the stars [A]
At the cross of the leys [C]
At the crux of Earth’s mass [F]
It’s meaningless they say [D]

Tombs for Kings they claim [Bb65 arp]
It’s outrageous and obscene [E7 arp (w/3rd fret D)]
If they admit they got it wrong [A]
They’ll have been wrong all along [D (sus sweep turnaround; D C# A)]
And not just about Kings you see [E A/E E7]

Copper tools and slaves? [Bb65 arp]
Just gimme a break! [E7 arp]
You fib like a child [A]
Or are as dense as a pile [Dm]
Of limestone, granite and apes [E7 A/E E7]

Perfect alignment with the stars [A arp]
At the cross of the leys [C arp]
At the crux of Earth’s mass [F arp]
It’s all meaningless they say [B arp (with 5-fret harmonic on top)]

Telling me show me the evidence [D]
I say what are you blind? [A]
But they dismiss as coincidence [D]
It’s convenient they find [A]




But the game’s not new [C#m7]
It’s millennia old [Bb65]
Cause time can be cruel [Bm7]
If you’re not in the age of the gold [F#7]

And it’s not just with Egypt
The condition is widespread
“Those are just piles of stone”
[At the Canaries, Sicily and the moon]
They get into your head

Fi after Fi
Straight across the globe
Piercing air, land and sea
Equidistant societies
Are what you’ll find
Along parallel 23

They were primitive people
People with primitive ways
Oh, that must be it
How could’ve I missed it
We’ll say you’re right, ok?
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
Dr John
#6 Posted : 1/24/2013 2:58:16 PM

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a friend of mine compose hip hop beats. he smokes dmt/nmt, says it open up a gateway for him. i smoke dmt and write lyrics to record, not huge breakthrough doses when trying to get work done though. it seem to enhance instances of synthenatia with emotion and sound, and relaying that experience back in poem is a fun journey i can create. we had dmt like minds before i started extracting and using dmt.. incorporating it into our arts seemed natural.

emotions, sounds, thought, color.. are more easily seen as one while on dmt -which is why it makes a great tool for artists. i think many artist naturally tap into hyperspace anyways, it's all related.
 
 
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