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Hi,
Iam wondering if it would make any sense, or get any result, if i take the dried bark, that i have leftover from the 3times Acid WaterCook for a Marsofold Tek..
i m,ade a mixture of 1-pint vinegar and 3 quarts of water, which 50% of was put into aCrockpot and 500 gr bark in it. after 2 hr., i decantedx the liquid and put 25% of the waterv/vinegar into it, simmering another hour, and then üut the resr of the liquid in itand let it simmer for another hour... (like general Marsofold-TEK).
after squeezing the bark through a t-shirt i have the liquid for using the Marsofold Tek..
But what about the rest of the bark-powder..?
would it make any sense of doing a STB on the dried Barkpowder as well???
i assume there would be some goodies left in the barkpowder..?
What i wanna try is:
500gr bark from previous acid.watercook (now dried)
mix with lets say 2 liters of water, shake, shake, shake......(warm waterbath)
then use some fresh XYLENE and roll it (keeping it in warm water bath and shake every now and then)..
if i syphon the XYLENE after several mixtures, would there still be some goodies in the XYLENE, or will all DMT already been transferred to the liuquid used for the Marsofold TEK..
i heard of a guy using his spent bark for a STB, doing Pulls with Xylene??
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It's worth a try! You never know. On bark that has been stb'd and pulled with naphtha, if one uses xylene on the same batch, they can pull more stuff. Though, this stuff is probably less DMT, and more other alkaloids like maybe NMT. I personally like the xylene pulls more than naptha, though it doesn't seem to go as far. Maybe I'm just a wimp, though!  Be an adult only when necessary.
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Mr.Peabody wrote:On bark that has been stb'd and pulled with naphtha, if one uses xylene on the same batch, they can pull more stuff. Though, this stuff is probably less DMT, and more other alkaloids like maybe NMT.
Not so!  Take a look at burnt's jungle spice analysis  burnt wrote:When one analyzes jungle spice made by STB or A/B methods two main compounds are visible. DMT and the other alkaloid. There are some very very minor peaks but basically thats the majority of whats observed. Ratio is about 95% DMT and 5% other alkaloid.
When one analyzes jungle spice by GC-MS DMT is the major compound. Two other compounds can be observed NMT and 2-methy-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-beta-carboline. However since some compounds are not analyzable by GC because they are not volatile SWIM decided to derivitize the extract with a trimethylsilyating (TMS) reagent and analyze it again. By using N-Methyl-N-trifluoroacetamide (MSTFA) with 1% trimethylchlorosilane (TMCS) this reagents reacts to interchange protons on functional groups like OH (also works on amines etc many functional groups) with a trimethylsilicon (TMS) group. Derivitizing with these reagents has a number of advantages for analysis on GC. It improves thermal stability of compounds, it improves their volatility (by reducing intramolecular forces such as hydrogen bonding on functional groups), it also can improve chromatographic separation, and finally it aids in structure elucidation. burnt wrote:Basically when people say jungle spice is "another alkaloid" they are wrong. Its DMT. This is important for those who extract it to realize because it means there is a lot more DMT still present in your extract. SWIM has cleaned up the extract 3 times with hexane and DMT is still present. SWIM will try and fully exhaust the material of DMT and analyze again but that might be very difficult if not impossible without chromatography. Wiki • Attitude • FAQThe Nexian • Nexus Research • The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. גם זה יעבור
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Interesting! I stand corrected! So why does jungle spice have such a different nature to it? Is it the synergy with the other trace alkaloids? Also, why would some DMT be pulled with naphtha, and some with xylene? The last bit I had read about it said that it was likely other trace alkaloids from the bark. I guess I'd also heard jungle spice is oxidized DMT. Either way, it seems to increase yield, as I have exhausted bark with naphtha, and still pulled more with xylene. Be an adult only when necessary.
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i agree with you peabody i did this for a long time with my mhrb extractions i pulled twice with naphtha then twice with xylene and evap'd in those days id get a dark red slightly waxy product which blew peoples socks off. i tried just pulling with the xylene and i never seemed to get as deep into the bark as when id done the first couple of naphtha pulls..
i find it strange to think that the so called jungle spice i was pulling was just mostly DMT as the effects compared to the white stuff were worlds apart , the 'jungle' was much more grounded earthly and friendly and came on slower and lasted longer. these consistencys were noted by many people i shared it with.
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