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NEED HELP!! MEK Alternative? Options
 
Verruckter
#1 Posted : 1/14/2013 12:00:17 AM

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Ok,

So swim extracted San Pedro using lye, sunflower oil, and vinegar and returned about 4.438 mg of mescaline acetate. thats seems like of return for what was used for extraction, about 3-4lbs of fresh cactus minus the core, which def means swim has A LOT of alkaloids. swim fan dried some, and used low heat and a fan to dry the rest. The fan dry came out ok swim guess's? It was yellows, definitely crystal formation on the glass and slightly waxy. The one using low heat came out brown on the outer rim area where it had a thinner layer. The center area of the dish where it was a thicker layer , it was a slightly domed dish, was sludgy and yellow. By the research swim has done swim feels the results seem pretty accurate? any thoughts, questions, or insights on my procedures or extraction descriptions are welcome.

So now for the topic swim is really looking for help with, an MEK alternative!! So swim used the extraction method he did b/c he lives in California and in this state it is fucking insanely easy to find chemicals!! I'm obviously being facetious! lol So swim has this mixed lump of mescaline acetate with obvious mass amounts of alkaloids and he would really like to clean and re-x for some pure mesc-acetate! swim doesn't really want to convert the acetate to HCL and then wash and re-x, but.... swim is kind of lazy at this point lol. What are his options? He's open to any and all options

TIA,

The Krazy One

Oh and ill add some pics from swims whole process in a little while so you guys can see what is what with the extraction and results
 

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ipumaestro
#2 Posted : 1/14/2013 12:19:40 AM

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if this cat recalls correctly
klean strip's mek substitute is acetyl alcohol which should work just fine

hcl is pretty simple to work with, dry tone washes are easy
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#3 Posted : 1/14/2013 1:00:57 AM

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cetyl or acetyl? Isn't cetyl alcohol a non liquid? lol, im looking for something that i could go and personally buy. I prefer not to order chemicals online.
 
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#4 Posted : 1/14/2013 1:02:37 AM

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ipumaestro wrote:

klean strip's mek substitute is acetyl alcohol which should work just fine

achuma puma
 
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#5 Posted : 1/17/2013 4:01:46 AM

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i have been looking everywhere i can think of... where would one find acetyl alcohol? Seems harder to even google information on than xylene. lol Is there another name for acetyl alcohol?
 
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#6 Posted : 1/17/2013 4:57:59 AM

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mek substitute by klean strip
also acetyl alcohol is readily available online for purchase, but this cat never orders anything
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#7 Posted : 1/17/2013 7:32:07 AM

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bummer, klean strip's web page says "substitute not for sale in california" lol looks like im probably going to end up having to convert my acetate to HCL so i can use acetone for the wash, or just order some mek online....
thanks for your help by the way!!
 
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#8 Posted : 1/17/2013 1:48:28 PM
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have you checked paint shops?
the ones in my county still stock all the voc solvents....
 
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#9 Posted : 1/17/2013 10:57:35 PM

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adding the impure mescaline to just enough water to get it disolved - filtration then flooding with acetone often gives just as pure product as an mek re-x.
it is really fast too!
after the mescaline that precipped is collected - the solution should be evaporated (this is where using minimal water helps) as some of the mesc will remain
the proceedure can be repeated with this left over or, if one thinks the product is not pure enough - most times tho shiny clear hcl xtals fall from richly tinted liquid
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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Quote:
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He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
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#10 Posted : 1/18/2013 12:51:15 AM
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Verruckter wrote:
Ok,

So swim extracted San Pedro using lye, sunflower oil, and vinegar and returned about 4.438 mg of mescaline acetate. thats seems like of return for what was used for extraction, about 3-4lbs of fresh cactus minus the core, which def means swim has A LOT of alkaloids.


Yeah that does seem an awful high number!
4lb fresh cacti is like 100grams of dried flesh-max

be prepared to loose weight as you purify
 
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#11 Posted : 1/20/2013 5:35:15 PM

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Phlux, I remember seeing a write up on that procedure but cant seem to relocate it now, would you happen to have a link for it? Id like to take another look at it, and that information posted up would help other people that were or are in my shoes, and looking for an alternative to MEK.

So for an update on my situation. I ended up taking a trip up to Humboldt county this weekend and found some MEK at an Ace hardware! I ended up buying everything they had (2 gallons). LOL I plan on making HCL next go around but def want enough MEK for any other future projects/extraction/synth that i may want to do!
 
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#12 Posted : 1/21/2013 10:11:19 AM

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https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=10118
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


Quote:
‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


Quote:
‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
Phlux-
#13 Posted : 1/21/2013 10:15:54 AM

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this may help too - https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=18338

i think i wasnt clear in these posts - i will be re-working all my cactus posts over the next while
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


Quote:
‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


Quote:
‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
 
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