Okay I'm new here and I signed up mainly to discuss a particular situation that my fiend has experienced.
Before the experience, both of us have never consumed any form of psychedelics until a friend of a friend introduced to us DMT....
I have never heard of DMT, except that its the chemical that is released in our brains when we dream.

So...

Last week my close friend gave it a try and only after 15 minutes of being completely disoriented he snaps
out of his trance-like state and swears that he was living his alternative life reality for
estimate 3 years. He swears that he has 3 whole years of memories after his first initial DMT experience.
Is this even possible? I want to believe him but at the same time I want to get him help,
because I really believe that the DMT has messed up the chemistry of his brain.

He's starting to scare me because this is all he talks about and he swears
that he was living normal life for 3 years and just got out of his trip.

Is this possible with too much DMT? Are the effects permanent?

Do you have any more details? (dose, previous history, validity of purity etc.)
This one may take some time to ponder over...be patient with us.

Whoah how trippy If Clyde didn't have so many responsibilities he'd want to trip for 3 years although sometimes it feels like an eternity while on dmt.

i believe what he is saying is that, in the 15 min duration of the experience, he had 3 years of experience in an alternate reality.

very interesting, and i am waiting to hear more on what others have to say on the subject.


also to the OP, do you think you could get a detailed experience report from your friend?
that would be a cool read..

The very best thing would be if you could get him to sign up for an account here and write up a detailed experience report. Assure him that he will not be judged or called crazy here, although we will attempt to put his experience under the lens of critical thinking.

You will find a few reports here of travelers coming back from hyperspace and reporting having had a full lifetime of experience in an alternate reality. Whether this can actually happen, or if it's just a very convincing illusion, is a tough call. Time does funny things in hyperspace. But more details, straight from the horse's mouth, would allow us to give this a much better look.

I would say, the most important question is: does your friend seem otherwise okay?

You said he's talking a lot about his trip, which in my experience is fairly normal to novice drug-users. The experience is so new and intense that they just feel the need to share it.

Other then his talkativeness, is he exhibiting any sort of radical change in personality, behavior, or perception? Any symptoms of Hallucinogen Perception Persistence Disorder (HPPD), psychosis, or other sorts of unstable, potentially dangerous behavior?

The the answer to that question is 'no,' I would chalk his experience up to a really intense hyperspace trip, and maybe some crazy time dilation. I would love to hear more.

If the answer to my question is 'yes,' they are exhibiting abnormal and potentially dangerous behavior, I would definitely try to get as much information as possible on the particular batch of DMT he took, on the provider, and if you really think they're in a bad mental place, talk to them about going to see a therapist or doctor.

It is possible for psychedelics to trigger latent mental disorders, and if there was some strange additive in the DMT itself, (I'm assuming your friend vaporized freebase, by the way) it might lead to an atypical, potentially damaging experience.

Once we've established the health of the friend, then I would feel more comfortable putting they're brain under the proverbial microscope.

Inside all of us is the cumulative history of all of mankind as a species, the summation of our own past lives that we have lived, and they are all stored within us. It doesn't surprise me at all, what you're saying. This isn't baseless psychobabble. It's mentioned in the book "A Psychedelic Experience (Based off the Tibetan Book of the Dead) by Timothy Leary". Take a look at that. Since he isn't stuck in a loop or a psychotic episode, I doubt that he slipped so low , consciousness speaking. Try and get a coherent, full story out of him, and share it with us if you'd like, maybe then we can give a more accurate, fulfilling response.

From an information flow standpoint it probably isn't possible to live 3 years worth of data in 15 minutes... but then again it could be possible - how many vivid memories do you have of tying your shoelaces, eating food, pooping, etc compared to major life experiences such as getting a vicious disease or your first love or ego death and so on?

So 3 years of condensed memories is totally physically believable but 3 years of full lifetime experience in 15 minutes is just not physically feasible as far as I know.

Though it must be said that spirit never did really ever give much of a fuck about limits imposed on itself.

Def a unique story. Time stretches are quite normal with dmt and I have also had photo realism trips of normal day to day alternate realities but never did I loose anywhere near that much time.

Without hearing your friends account its all just us speculating from our own knowledge and experiences. We could help more if he could chime in and describe the events.

Off the cuff Id day its plausible that the experience blew his mind in a way one could never know are possible until they experience it. Possibly his claim of it feeling like 3 years could be exaggerated. He may feel that's the only way to communicate the freakishness of his experience which is understandable.

If he truly lived 3 years in 15 min I can fully understand him having serious after effects. It would be like waking from a coma in reverse. Hard for him to accept if his experience was actually that realistic and quite a mind Fk.

If it was nn-DMT I wouldn't worry about it hurting his mind or brain chemistry or lasting damage. But thats IF it was DMT. Without doing your own extraction there can always be a chance its not what you think. Maybe it was 5meo DMT and he took way too much. The doasge for 5meo is like 5mg where NN dmt is like 20-35mg. It could be lots of things but as i said we can only just speculate without more information.

I wish him and you well. Let us know what you feel would help you both.

Here is a few diagrams to illustrate the relation between DMT and time.

I wouldn't worry about it too much, your friend just smoked DMT and this is what happens when you spin the wheel of fortune. It's all fun and games until someone smokes DMT. After that you have to redefine "fun and games".

Robert Moneroe once claimed to have spent 100 subjective years in one single lucid dream.

Lmao! Daedaloops that's excellent

UC took the words out of my mouth for which there are no others.

Haha love the diagrams daedeloops. I use to have dreams as a kid (nightmare might be more appropriate) where it was like being stuck inside of some sort of machine that was going through violent processes, releasing tremendous amounts of energy in changing intervals. These dreams would often feel like they were going on for an eternity, and would result in "loops" of emotions, from panic to surrender and back again. It really did feel like years, and I was conscious of the fear that it would recur for an indefinite amount of time.

Besides this, I've read stories of people experiencing completely alternate lives while blacked out. There was one that was posted in chat last year about what a man experienced after a concussion. He was only out for a matter of minutes, but he reported that he had lived roughly a decade in a completely parallel life, where he found a wife, had children, a different job, etc. When he came back he felt completely torn away from that reality and suffered months of depression and separation anxiety.

I really don't think it's implausible to believe that the mind can condense wavelengths of activity in some way to cause extreme time dilations. Perhaps the same "rhythm" is occurring only at a much higher tempo? Maybe we can someday trigger inner mental time dilation in order to learn massive amounts in tiny fractions of time?

I'm back for the moment and I apologize for the delay in replying. My life has changed forever since my friends experience with god's chemical DMT...
We have visited a neurologists to figure out what is going on. They ran some chromatographic test on his blood plasma for concentrations of DMT and it was above average of a user of the drug even after 5 days of the experience. There are also traces of DMT in his urine and the doctor said that after 24 hours he shouldn't have any unless he used that day. The doctor deduced that his body his producing DMT somehow but he said in science it's not proven that DMT is produced by brain etc.

So, the doctors began to run test on his brain and found that the "Pons" and "limbic system" neurons are firing as if he is in a dream state or "REM".

Although my friend is still functioning normal and can perform normal day to day activities (job, family, etc)..
But he says that he remembering 24/7 this other life that he has lived....

He tells me there not just visions or dreams but actual memories that he has experienced.
It's really starting to scare me because he tells me things that will happen in my life that I really hope it's just
symptoms of the drug and he just had a "bad trip" that causing his anxiety and anxiousness,
because he's telling me negative things like I'm going to die cancer....


Does the after effects of dmt cause someone to act like this? Has anyone had a experience like this from too much DMT?

A week ago I gave him a journal to write down all his thoughts and what he remembers or begins to remember,
and he used up a whole composition notebook! I'm kinda scared to read it!

I really want to help my best friend and would take any advice from you guys. This community
are the only people with actual experience from the chemical (not a neurologist, psych, etc)

Thanks and ill be here to reply! Sorry again !

Hey Divinematrix,

The real test of a psychedelic experience is how well it can be integrated into day-to-day life. It's not impossible to experience something as crazy as living years of another life, in only a handful of minutes of "real" time. It does sound like your friend is having a longer lasting aftereffect though, and I wish him the best for integrating his experience. I have often thought that smoking DMT can stimulate the body to produce more of its own DMT. Probably it will help a lot if you are just a stable friend for him, one he can talk to about his experience without fear of judgement or being labelled crazy. Try and remind him of what "the rest of the world" thinks, but do it gently.

Take heart for yourself though, not everything your friend sees under DMT is "real" or destined to happen. The visionary phenomena your friend is experiencing often has a feeling of being absolutely real, but I've had many visions that did not come true. Sometimes you get a glimpse of something that actually happens, but a lot of times it is just illusion, mind games. Nothing is for sure in this world.

And by the way, DMT is one hell of a way to be introduced to psychedelics!

I can only relate my experience with Salvia. I've only used DMT for a fairly short time, and have been very conservative for the most part with it. Low doses, only a handful of breakthroughs. Salvia on the other hand...

I had an experience when I was smoking extract daily about five years ago. I spent what seemed like several years, or at the very least more than one year, in another persons life. It's common with Salvia to forget you even smoked, and that's what happened. I took a large dose of extract, brokethrough, completely forgot I had taken anything. And I found myself living someone else's life. I had no idea anything was wrong. I have memories of my wife and son (I have a daughter, but am not married) my job, car, house, even my pet parrot. When I came out of the experience it was very traumatic. I thought I had lost my mind, because I could recall so many details and it seemed absolutely real.

I even went to a doctor and then eventually saw a neurologist. They found absolutely nothing. They had no answers as to how or why I could have these memories. I took it upon myself to try to find this person to see if he was real. I knew where he lived, where he worked, etc. But the farthest I got was a forwarding address that led no where, and the employer said no one worked there by that name and they wouldn't give me any information on past employee files.

It still makes me think I'm crazy when I think about it But I figured, well, it happened, whether it was real or not, who knows. I stopped trying to track this person down and just chalked it up to an interesting experience. Although sometimes things still remind me of him, and I'll think about it from time to time. When I speak of it (which is rarely, I've only told one person of it before now) I do still feel a bit of a pull to try to find him again. That was something I really wish I could have done, just to prove to myself that I did experience it, and it was more than a hallucination.

Lately I've gotten into past life regression and the thought of this experience did come up. I wondered if it could possibly be a past life experience, because I had others like that with Salvia as well, but were obviously very far back in history.

Ilex, you don't how much your reply means to me and I really thank you for taking the time to read and reply with some meaningful and heartfilled words of wisdom. My eyes literally watered up when I read what you said because it gives me hope in knowing that I'm not alone on this journey. And even though I have never met you in person but i feel your spirit and wisdom will guide me !

Thanks