I don't think I've read this anywhere or heard anybody post any experience's. But has anybody ever thought of combining xylene pulled J-spice and Naptha pulled DMT together?

I remember sombody saying that MHRB was active in large ammounts orally maybe combining the J-spice with the DMT would prolong or color the experience to give more of and ayahuasca feel to it.

I'm interested in the results and I will try this someday with signifigant ammounts of both substances and then post a report. Probably won't happen any time soon but it will someday.

anybody here??

yes it seems a few people even prefer the mix of alkaloids than isolating them. Theres quite a few people that either straight away extract with xylene and use what comes out without separating dmt, or also people doing the FASA approach with all the alkaloids and then converting it back to freebase.

SWIM tried only once jungle spice + dmt and it was same same as normal dmt, with worse taste. SWIM has some jungle spice but somehow doesnt feel like smoking.. he redissolved in acetone and let evap a few times but still the idea of possible xylene remains sucks somehow.

going for the limonene way would also yield a mixture of all alkaloids (whatever j.spice is + dmt).. If SWIM could find limonene he would def be interested in smoking the whole thing!

N,N-DMT is N,N-DMT and whatever the mystery alkaloid is in M. hostilis (Probably yuremamine) with b-carboline like compounds shows MAOI activity. Threshold doses of pure N,N-DMT would promote other means of ingestion (B.caapi, rue, etc) as tolerance becomes part of the question, but even still, j.spice is active at larger doses taken orally as is a strong experience even at "lower" doses.


SWIM has just obtained some d-limonene and is pondering around.. If yuremamine is unstable at a high ph what should SWIM aim for? He figures calcium hydroxide would be a lighter base to work with and is considering employing FASA apart from vinegar or hcl

well jungle spice is possibly, amongst other things, a breakdown product of yuremamine, as it would have been destroyed by the extreme pHs present in usual extractions..

Im not sure how could one get the yuremamine but I bet they mention in the original paper from callaway et al, how they extracted it. Probably complex for the average person, but maybe some good info there about it.

maybe start out with doing a THP with mimosa..and then use sodium carbonate to basify..keeping the ph as low as possible..then extract with d-limonene

SWIM finds it preferable to smoke a straight, purified (actives only) extract of MHRB. If SWIM ever wants to smoke pure DMT, he would get it from a different source than MHRB, and that he wouldn't smoke j-spice separately from regular spice. Infundiblum brought it to SWIM's attention that this is the best way to experience the plant and that separating the two is not worth the trouble.

Thx for the replies