Amygdala wrote:
So, following this logic, conscious experience is a component of the universe, it is one of the things that the universe 'does'. I remember something from Watts about abandoning the mental use of nouns, where everything is distinguished from everything else. All that is, is verb/action. We are one of the things that the universe 'does' consciousness.
Interesting stuff
Perhaps not. Perhaps rather than Consciousness being a component of
this universe, maybe its spread evenly through out the multiverse. Some postualte the reason why gravity is so weak a force and seems to be in a class by itslef is because its dilluted by being spread throught the multiverse.
Science completed the standard model this past summer with the detction of the Higgs boson the final sub atomic particle aka carrier partricles of 3 forces but gravity our 4th force isnt part of the standard model nor is the predictd gravitron being sought. Why is this?
Its because its such an absolute weak force in general that on the quantrum level its impossible to do research with this force in super colliders. It remains theoretical for now.
Going back to the multiverse and gravity bit for a second. Some physists hypothesize the reason gravity is so absurdly weaker than the other 3 forces is because it is strecthed out through all the universes. Its weakness makes it impossible at the moment to study in places like CERN and find the theorhetical graviton.
So if consciousness was also spread across all the multi and universes then it will pose quite a challenge but should in theory be detected as a massless particle such as photons and gluons as well as find the accompanying boson. That is...if consciousness acts like a force of nature which to my laymen ass it seems to.
IMO Its similar to the other 4 forces because; Its there, were not sure how or why but in a way our universe as we know it couldnt exist without it. There would be no way to conclude that without,
a something, that has a conscious experience whether or not any of this would exist or even does exist NOW:
This btw would be what I lean towards being possible.
I feel Dr Hammeroff at the University Of Arizona is doing great work in this field but in a way wasting his time trying to discover where in the brain does consciousness reside. Even if he found it, it still would not explain what consciousness is nor why we even have the subjective human experience.
It would have been just as easy for life to evolve without qualia. An organism can eat, evade capture, and seek survival conditions without the subjective expérience so then why is it even there? did it evolve or was ita constant of the multiverse?
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