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#21 Posted : 1/3/2013 3:00:03 AM

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olympus mon wrote:
John Allegros, Whats his specialty? Credentials,,,Phd's ext that kinda stuff?

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Allegro started to train for the Methodist ministry but transferred to graduate with a first class degree in Semitic Studies from the University of Manchester. He obtained an M.A. for a study into the Balaam Oracles and later pursued further research, studying the various dialects of Biblical Hebrew at Oxford. In 1953 he was invited to become the first British representative on the international team working on the recently discovered Dead Sea Scrolls from cave 4 in Jordan. The following year he was appointed assistant lecturer in Comparative Semitic Philology at Manchester, and held a succession of lectureships there until he resigned in 1970 to become a full-time writer. In 1961 he was made Honorary Adviser on the Dead Sea Scrolls to the Jordanian government.


some of his work has been refuted, but much of it still remains.. overall has some good info, though don't take OP to be representative of his work.
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#22 Posted : 1/3/2013 3:03:22 AM

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and once again that mans hypothesis is that he had exogenous influence, not even the plausible explanation of endogenous experience. mate...
"The modern world was not alive to the tremendous Reality that encompassed it. We were surrounded by an immeasurable abyss of darkness and splendor. We built our empires on a pellet of dust revolving around a ball of fire in unfathomable space. Life, that Sphinx, with the head of a lion and the body of a brute, asked us new riddles every hour. Matter itself was dissolving under the scrutiny of Science; and yet in our daily lives we were becoming a group of somnambulists, whose very breathing, in train and bus car, was timed to the movement of wheels; and the more perfectly, and even alertly, we clicked through our automatic affairs on the surface of things, the more complete to our insensibility to the utterly inscrutable mystery that anything should be in existence at all."
-Alfred Noyes,The Unknown God, London, 1934,pp176-177

 
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#23 Posted : 1/3/2013 3:17:40 AM



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can we not let yet another thread devolve into an argument? :[

I'm all for encouraging critical thinking and grounded speculation... but to encourage that and then at the same time basically dismiss Allegros work as 'wild speculation that sounds great' without even looking into it is hypocritical

The idea that some of these ancient figures ingested psychedelics and/or had spontaneous "psychedelic" experiences is not all that far-fetched at all (experiences of that nature are actually very common-i.e. Jung, Tesla, Hoffman..hoards of nexians lol..etc- regardless of whether endogenous hallucinogens are involved or not). Not citing this as evidence; but iirc strassman is also currently writing a book on this same subject

The OP never said it was a fact, they admitted it was just an idea they found interesting. Many here talk about being convinced they've met with hyperdimensional aliens...so maybe lets give them a bit of slack eh? Wink



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#24 Posted : 1/3/2013 3:28:06 AM


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Agreed UC.

However, I think the conversation would be much more interesting if the OP said:

"I believe X because of Y and Z."

Instead we get:

"I believe X. Google it."

I find the topic extremely interesting and even believe the burning bush is reported to be syrian rue and/or some acacia. However, I am not versed in this topic and therefor would love to hear supporting evidence of the OP.
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#25 Posted : 1/3/2013 4:26:13 AM

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this is my first post for goodness sake. I did not come to the nexus to argue, only to expand upon ideas. If you are truly interested in this phenomena I would personally recommend reading rick strassmans book, as well as Hancock's Supernatural as both are heavily referenced well.
"The modern world was not alive to the tremendous Reality that encompassed it. We were surrounded by an immeasurable abyss of darkness and splendor. We built our empires on a pellet of dust revolving around a ball of fire in unfathomable space. Life, that Sphinx, with the head of a lion and the body of a brute, asked us new riddles every hour. Matter itself was dissolving under the scrutiny of Science; and yet in our daily lives we were becoming a group of somnambulists, whose very breathing, in train and bus car, was timed to the movement of wheels; and the more perfectly, and even alertly, we clicked through our automatic affairs on the surface of things, the more complete to our insensibility to the utterly inscrutable mystery that anything should be in existence at all."
-Alfred Noyes,The Unknown God, London, 1934,pp176-177

 
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#26 Posted : 1/3/2013 4:43:33 AM

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On a different note here is a really good piece i stumbled upon. And i dont usually dig this stuff Very happy

https://soundcloud.com/mentalbroadcast
"The modern world was not alive to the tremendous Reality that encompassed it. We were surrounded by an immeasurable abyss of darkness and splendor. We built our empires on a pellet of dust revolving around a ball of fire in unfathomable space. Life, that Sphinx, with the head of a lion and the body of a brute, asked us new riddles every hour. Matter itself was dissolving under the scrutiny of Science; and yet in our daily lives we were becoming a group of somnambulists, whose very breathing, in train and bus car, was timed to the movement of wheels; and the more perfectly, and even alertly, we clicked through our automatic affairs on the surface of things, the more complete to our insensibility to the utterly inscrutable mystery that anything should be in existence at all."
-Alfred Noyes,The Unknown God, London, 1934,pp176-177

 
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#27 Posted : 1/3/2013 8:27:57 AM

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olympus mon wrote:
Moses tripping and parting the red sea...cmon mate!


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#28 Posted : 1/3/2013 8:32:41 AM

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Welcome to the Nexus AmateurHistorian
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