Hi guys its the first time for me on these forums so let me know if i'm posting this in the wrong section . To be honest I really just need to make sure I'm making/consuming this Ayahuasca as it's meant to be.

To start of with I'd like to say that I've never done psychedelics for the main reason being I've never informed myself and only ever looked at them like 'drugs' and not in the light of 'healing'. Let me explain how this view on Psychedelics(mainly DMT) has changed from bad to good.

A friend of mine returned from a week long retreat of silence and after the silence consumed a 'tea' given to him by one of the masters at the retreat. He told me when he took it, he was definitely under the influence of this tea and the chanting of the master that was close by as he sat down. ''As if he was dreaming while awake in another universe at times'' he stated. What got me interested was that he told me it changed him for the 'good', said it changed the way he looks at life. I was shocked that a 'tea' made of tree bark and some leaves could do so much( I believe he took Ayahuasca with P. Viridis as opposed to Mimosa which is what I'm using). 

So I researched that same night online. Found out that DMT was responsible for the trip and came to the conclusion that it can be of good use for a better view on life and not just a 'drug' as its labelled for recreational use. That’s what changed my view on psychedelics, which lead me to some research on what Ayahuasca actually is. Found out how/what its made of and it's history. What's made me consider taking it is that our ancestors consumed Ayahuasca for healing and meditation. After watching these two documentaries its made me believe I as a person could benefit from this 'tea'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ommNRJeMQ – Stepping into the Fire (Ayahuasca changing lives)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvBIPHg-hA - The Spirit Molecule (DMT)

I've always been the one for natural remedies as opposed to prescribed medication and recreational drugs. So knowing its all tree and plants is defiantly good. After some research I've come to understand that Ayahuasca is a healer? But since I've never taken Ayahuasca I don’t know how it heals. Which leads me to my main question. More and more recently I become depressed as aposed to before. I link this depression to my ankle injury which prevents me from playing football/soccer which to me is something I love and right now cant do (bare in mind I do believe I have melancholy for a long time now since my parents divorced at the age of 9). Does anyone here believe that Ayahuasca can heal depression and anxiety which I have? 

Now from some research DMT is probably one of the strongest psychedelic's? Correct me if I'm wrong. So for someone like me that’s never done a psychedelic I have some questions before I take this Ayahuasca as I'v read it can blow your mind.

I'm using this recipe http://www.ayahuasca-info.com/recipes/ with 50g B.Caapi and 12g Mimosa Hostilis.

My Questions
-Is 12g of Mimosa to much for someone that’s never taken a psychedelic considering this is the plant that extracts DMT. I read somewhere online that 3g-5g is fine but not according to this recipe.

-I'm currently making the Ayahuasca and I'm filtering it using a kitchen sieve and not the t-shirt method mentioned. Is this alright? Or does it need to be 'only' liquid for both caapi and mimosa before I start to reduce each liquid?

-My friend had a master near him chanting for the start of his Ayahuasca experience which he said helped reach another state of mind. Is this chant or something similar attainable online? And is it even advisable to have chant/music on while under the influence of Ayahuasca?

-And last question can Ayahuasca relieve me of depression/melancholy, anxiety and even short term memory loss(which I believe was caused from smoking way to much pot at a young age) or am I asking to much from Aya? Or will it face me with my fears for me to fight and overcome and move on?

For those more experienced users that could shed some light on either what to expect and/or what to prepare before my first experience would be greatly appreciated. Also I'll be doing this on my own in acouple days.

ps after writing this up I accidently highlighted and deleted it all   

CTRL+Z = undo

Posted this in your other thread so ill add it here too.

Hey welcome to the forum. I often read these recipes of 12g of mimosa and think wow but then its probably outer bark. If its inner purple pink bark then yes the dosage would be between 2-5g so just make sure you know what kind it is exactly. If you dont id start with 2-3g.

The t-shirt method is fine.

Heres a link to some icaros that people use for aya ceremonys, loads of links in this thread https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=10282

It could help with depression usually does though it could exacerbate it too, nothing's a guarantee with these things. My advice would be to start low and tbh you dont need to add mimosa/dmt to get the healing that ayahuasca/cappi can give. In my personal ayahuasca experiences these things took time, most people go through a lot of misfires and it "not" working but the whole process can be enjoyable and beneficial. Hope that helps!

Welcome home new friend,
Im glad you posted here becasue as was mentioned if you have purple inner bark 12g is way way too much!
Im also glad to hear you have been able to let go of your judgments and prejudices about entheogens being drugs just used for fun. As you can see their are over 20,000 users here most whoch are on paths of healing and understanding.

Side note I spent some time in Peru drinking ayahausca and at a near by other healing center everyone their referred to the healers or shamans as "their masters" or "My master said this bla bla bla". It drove me nuts and I question any shaman asking to be called Master.
That's just my rant now back toy our question,lol.

Are you putting too much expectations on ayahausca? Maybe, yes, and no. Its certainly not an event its a process so if your hoping after one or even a couple healing sessions you will be all better then yes, your expecting too much because that's not really how aya works.

If you chooses to do in depth work with ayahausca and integration as a process you would be surprised how much can change in your life and in you. I do feel ayahusca can help YOU change all these things but first understand the medicine only lights the path and the things the darkness doesnt allow you to see. It is you that must heal thy self by walking through the fire and facing what she has to show you without judgment and with acceptance and love.
Ive written a great deal as have many others about the process of healing with ayahausca in the subforum. Do some reading there perhaps if your interested.

Thanks guys for the replies very useful!
If only i knew vagabond

Looking at the Mimosa I have right now its actually got a very dark purple pink color to it. So I'm unsure wether its the inner or outer so I'll probably do what you said and only take half or even less of what I have right now. What you guys reckon? Also Is it possible to keep the rest of the mimosa liquid frozen if I do take only half for my first try so I can use it at a later date??

Also Infinite I can't use that link for the icaros because it has .... in it :/ tried to look for it on the site but cant find.



When you say in the subforum do you mean here https://www.dmt-nexus.me...t.aspx?g=topics&f=51 ?

Great info there mate thanks loads

yes, that is the ayahuasca subforum.

take a look at the stickied threads.

Linky : https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=15568

And as I said Id start with 2g, you can always drink more if it doesnt kick in but if you take too much you cant undo that and it could swear you off it as Ive seen happen to people.

Yes that's the forum. This would be helpful on understanding the process of how aya works her healing.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=31507

Here are some of my reports from Peru. Take what you can leave the rest behind.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=31533

I actually found this link http://www.ayahuasca-wasi.com/medicine-songs/ on here somewhere last night. Cant go wrong with that massive list

Olympus I'll definitely give those 2 a good read later before bed. Looks like fun

Again thanks for all the replies much love

Booked ayahuasca on 2012 november in Holland.

I would like to share my first journey into ayahuasca. I want to share it because i found a lot of precious information that helped me onto this journey but also i developed my own way , which i feel is more complementary,of seeing the whole ayahuasca experiment

Check Oberom , breathtarian from Brazil corso pranico 21 days

Preparation:

Day 1. Apple pear coconut pumpkin and lemon water apple juice

Day 2. Wholemeal biscuit, apple , red grape, tomato , fruit juice, lemon water

Day 3.Sunday5th wholemeal biscuit, banana,3 pear,brown rice cracker,apple juice green tea walnut

Day4.brown rice, tomato,walnut,date,fresh apple juice,fresh ojuice,banana,lemon tea

(Dream sea water and stealing a lemon)

Day5.bronrice, grilled tomato 3 , fresh apple juice, spinach,walnut,apple,grape

Day6.saturday brown rice, carrot and celery, carrot juice,rice cracker

Day7.sunday white rice,cucumnber,apple,

Day8.monday12 fasting from food and water

Have a astrological chart reading done to grasp more awareness during this period.

This ayahuasca retreat happens during saturn transit conjunct on my natal moon. Not nore a perfect time than time when moon transit also conjunct the natal moon all in scorpio. Let's dig it.

Moon conjunct Moon

This transit marks the start of your personal lunar month. You are emotionally charged now. You should be aware that your current state of mind can, in an indirect way, determine much about how you will be feeling in the month ahead. As such, make it as positive as you can. Honor your feelings, reach into your well, and pull out the feelings that support your larger goals. Familiarity, a sense of belonging, and emotional connections fuel your spirit now more than usual. You are more sensitive and responsive than you are typically. Relationships with significant women in your life may be especially prominent now.

Meditation at Amsterdam meditation centre which is inside the airport. Paradoxically it was one of the quietest place i cold ever experience. Absoute magick.

Bought gemstone for spiritual journey protection and grounding.

Found my body to be well responsive and energetic by having a meal a day. Not craving for other foods.- corso di 21 days pranic body?

Rebirthing- ayahuasca teach to meet ourself which has been hidden behind blame,guilt, lies fears thats seets in our unconscious and effect our image without knowing.

By doing a rebirth with a professional you can go deeper.

Rebirthing is a good preparatory technique for journeying into ayahuasca.

The rebirthing is an individual process to the extreme. What will come up with a certain person at a certain time depends on many different factors, but the participants have to believe in the wisdom of their True Self, in the wisdom of their body, and in the rightness of the experiences that they are currently going through. And what is happening is exactly that which is needed and useful for them right at that particular moment.

The defensivness of the ego

http://www.jrhutslar.com...df/MMI-Defensiveness.pdf

http://www.psychological...esteem.html#.UKBS35G9KSM

http://www.wisebrain.org/IntentionArticle.pdf

Eclectic energies : good articles

How emotions affect the chakras

There are emotions and states that are able to close down chakras, if they're not processed adequately. Anodea Judith calls them 'demons' in her book 'Eastern Body, Western Mind'. The demons affect the 'rights' that are associated with the chakras.

1. Root Chakra

Fear

The right to be here

2. Sacral Chakra

Guilt

The right to feel

3. Navel Chakra

Shame

The right to act

4. Heart Chakra

Sorrow

The right to love and be loved

5. Throat Chakra

Lies

The right to speak and hear truth

6. Third Eye Chakra

Illusion

The right to see

7. Crown Chakra

Attachment

The right to know

You might also be interested in these books about the chakras at Amazon UK

http://www.jrhutslar.com...df/MMI-Defensiveness.pdf

See book descriptions

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Still, one can’t make demands or have expectations of ayahuasca, that’s not the right way. One must accept what one sees and find the meaning in that. I want to see my demons, and face them. I want to go deep into my own mind and kick the shit out of my psyche, and tell it to stop being so bloody lame sometimes. But if that doesn’t happen, perhaps it will mean that there’s nothing very much the matter with me, and I will have discovered something equally valuable. Perhaps I wish there was something hidden inside me, stopping me from doing things, instilling fear. Perhaps that makes me feel special and gives me an excuse not to achieve all I can be. But maybe I should ask ayahuasca to tell me how to just be happy as I am.

I feel like I’m coming to realise many things about myself simply in the preparation for the ceremonies. I’m sad that I’ll be missing one of my best buds’ leaving dos, he’s off to live and work in Geneva, but perhaps that in itself is another learning experience. I don’t know what the lesson is just yet, maybe I’ll know on Friday when I’m ripping it up spiritually.

Ayahuasca experience

Day 1. beatiful visionary of rainbow and geometric and pink energy filling my heart chakra

Day 2.

We start with lesson of true contact with another person, tat means to look deeply into somebodyelse eye.

Lesson. Learn to Love

In oder to join the goddess and gods we need to show how can we love.

Love curriculum.

Appear my family and thanked their presence. Tears joy swept my face.

Love means to be there and care. Tat's all.

Hearing Milly singing was ectsatic .........when the light of my soul shine i come home............ Beatifull songs.

Your parents are there because they loved you.

It is important to just be there and comfort.

I have to start loving without shame expressing my feeling and creative espression.

Having a child

A partner is there to test how you can love every day. Is it inconditial love.

Love without interest.

Bus to ayahuasca. Money is to making a living not so muh for taking profit.

You should work in that field that you love and things will start happening.

Day 3. Did yoga and the body felt so light. Every movement was free. Just lifting the hands up and breathing up in fron of the sun.

Wents though fear hat hold me to speak, to act and to be.

The fear for not accepting the fear for being refused and fear to be judged.

In you follow eith love there is no fear.

“Love takes off the masks that we fear we cannot live without and know we cannot live within. I use the word "love" here not merely in the personal sense but as a state of being, or a state of grace - not in the infantile American sense of being made happy but in the tough and universal sense of quest and daring and growth.”

― James Baldwin, The Fire Next Time

We are here as human because we forgot how to love.

Quote from the internet aya vs mushroom

Of course there is no correct universal answer. I have done mushrooms enough to know that I am connected to the earth and everything. My experience with Ayahuasca completely changed my life. Ayahuasca showed me what life feels like without an ego, for me Ayahuasca showed me things that mushrooms have yet to show me. Both are have divine qualities.

How medicines/plant spirirts communicate depends a lot on the individual. My experience is that some have much to teach me and some don't like me and do not wish to communicate. Mushrooms are one of these. A small dose does nothing but make me feel drunk and giggly, such as having a beer, and any more than that just makes me sick and depressed. On the other hand, I've found peyote/ san pedro to be a powerful and benevolent teacher. I used to harvest the cactus in SF and cook it for 12 hours while I sang to it, and it always sings back. Never tried Aya, so I can't say much about it. Heard its really powerfull. I've eaten morning glory seeds, which have the active ingrediant of LSA, which can be refined into LSD, which I also find to be a powerful teacher as well. So my advice is this, read up on others experiences, but when you do decide to explore on you own, HAVE NO PRECONCEPTIONS, on how they will speak to you. Empty your mind and alow yourself to be carried by the experience. Create a sacred space to explore in, and have someone with you whose been there before. Blessed be your journeys!

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Unsu...

Re: Aya vs. Mushrooms Mon, November 12, 2007 - 6:52 PM

I believe that when using mushrooms at serious doses in a serious context,

like ayahuasca nearly always is, they can be equally powerfull, but they

are inherently different and therefore a noticeably differing experience.

I like the statement that aya is of the earth (plus dmt is already in our brain)

and mushrooms are of the stars.

both have the potential to be both pure bliss and pure terror.

anyone with adequate experience with psychedelics who tells

you they've never had a terrifying experience is either lying

or seeking to emphasize the resulting benefits gained

instead of the more superficial unpleasantness.

the truth is, these plants offer something unspeakably fantastic.

but no matter who you are or how much positivity or "universal love"

or whatever you bring to the experience....

there are dues to be paid.... tough dues.

but it's the bargain of a lifetime!

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according to Kathlene Harrison the mazatecs she works with also use cinnamon tea the following day after a mushroom cermeonoy for its "warming" effects or something like that..even though cinnamon is not native to that region..

I think the mazatecs also use cacao in the following days..I never heard of them using it in ceremony though. They do offer the beans on the alter from what I understand durring mushroom and salvia ceremonies.

They also use a mixture of garlic and tobacco..they call one of the tobaccos "san pedro"..and they have another type that is female..anyway they mix garlic ang tobacco into a paste and put it on the alter and sometimes they pit a little bit in their gums durring a mushroom ceremony to help charge the visions and carry their prayers out through the spirit world.

The cubensis mushrooms they use when they have some sort of a job to do..like if they are building a new house etc..they will then do a ceremony with them. At least that is what the family that Kat Harrison works with told her.

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"healed people heal people, and hurt people hurt people"

Healing samctury in Essex recquires you to puke at least once.

Reminder and preparation for the next ayahuasca time:

1. Taking care of people if i see them shaking or crying. It is a love workshop and it is good to practise.

2. Drink to puke at least once

3.Bring instrument to play

4.Go with friends possibly or partners

5.Dress colourfully
The Neverending Story

Hi Alves.

The best advice i can give you is to perhaps do some more research, and putting that Ayahuasca off for a bit. Surely there's no rush, right?

Obviously you have a lot of preperation reading to do and stuff. It's also good to create a sacred space with some incense, and have some rustic tobacco to blow smoke over your body i think. But you don't have to. Those downloaded icaros will add to the experience.

Regarding your depression, Ayahuasca works mostly the weeks and months after you take it, working it's way through you. It's like a snake that searches out your problems and blocks. It does it's bit , but you have to do yours, and positive action is the way out of a depressed state for most of us. Problems don't usually resolve themselves, so you'll have to make some life changes. The medicine is a catalyst for transformation, but you are part of it. Be honest with yourself!

Also, be sure that you've read about the drug interactions, and stuff as well. That's very important.

Regardless, always start small and work your way up. Ayahuasca is not something that you can rush, and it is a wild medicine that will give you what you need, rather than want. It requires periods of integration, and usually several 'sessions' to do really good work.

Good luck.