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complacentnation
#1 Posted : 12/31/2012 10:13:54 PM

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Today, I started to wonder if Egyptians might have been using DMT, or whatever drug nectar there is in the brain? I feel like it would explain a lot. It would also explain why brains were missing in the mummification process. Most people say they disregarded the brain and just threw it out. If pine cones really symbolize the pineal gland then it is quite possible they extracted the brain maybe to go to hyperspace from someone elses brain? It is disturbing but just a thought? Did they have access to any other sources of spice?
 

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#2 Posted : 12/31/2012 10:30:59 PM

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Brains were not always removed in the mummification process. There was some evidence that they removed them through the nostril once they had partially liquefied (and hence leaving the brain hardly usable for any hyperspatial exploration) but recent research shows that sometimes they removed the brain and sometimes they didn't. And when they did, it's because they considered not the brain, but the heart, the seat of thought and reason. And the heart they usually left, or replaced with a golden scarab. The rest of organs, probably when the circumstances allowed it, were removed.

The rest of what you suggest sounds like wild speculation, to put it mildly.
 
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#3 Posted : 12/31/2012 10:49:44 PM

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The sphinx and great pyramid are dated way older than they are "officially" dated. Back then Egypt was thought to have been lush forest in that area..so I am sure the people of that time at least had access to many things that we are not aware of at this time. The later culture that seems to have reshaped the head of the sphinx into the sphinx we see today might not have had that acess though.

I think mushrooms can cover any ideas about DMT acess. Mushrooms can and will do the same thing basically. Even Dennis Mckenna says psilocybin is the perfect form of orally active DMT. Tons of cultures should have had access to mushrooms.

Acacia trees and phalaris grasses etc might have been used, who knows. I dunno if they grew in that area.

It seems really really likely that the ancient egyptians also had contact with cultures across the globe..there are numerous findings now of cocaine in ancient mummies..a substance thought only to be found in south america.
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#4 Posted : 12/31/2012 10:51:12 PM

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Oh yeah, it definitely is a wild speculation. But, why would they trash a brain? We obviously do not know the techniques of how they removed the brain. They could have done many things to the brain before pulling it through a nostril.If the pine cone is actually symbolism for the pineal gland, probably, they knew what was secreted by that area of the brain.


Also, supposedly there was a time the Egyptians were known to cannibalize. At least it is suggested in Egyptian mythology.


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Brains were not always removed in the mummification process. There was some evidence that they removed them through the nostril once they had partially liquefied (and hence leaving the brain hardly usable for any hyperspatial exploration) but recent research shows that sometimes they removed the brain and sometimes they didn't. And when they did, it's because they considered not the brain, but the heart, the seat of thought and reason. And the heart they usually left, or replaced with a golden scarab. The rest of organs, probably when the circumstances allowed it, were removed.

The rest of what you suggest sounds like wild speculation, to put it mildly.

 
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#5 Posted : 12/31/2012 10:57:13 PM

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complacentnation wrote:
If the pine cone is actually symbolism for the pineal gland, probably, they knew what was secreted by that area of the brain.


What does a pine cone symbol have to do with Egyptians? Please excuse me, im not very well versed in Egyptian culture.
 
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#6 Posted : 12/31/2012 11:02:59 PM

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There is plenty of information out there of the pine cone being represented as symbolism for the pineal gland throughout the ages. I mean I do not buy it or doubt it. I know that we are largely clueless about almost everything, more importantly our own humankinds history.

Here is one link of many: http://conesandstones.co...istorical-symbolism.html

There is room for considerable doubt that the Egyptians just trashed the brain, when it was extracted, as has been suggested over the last century or more.
 
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#7 Posted : 1/1/2013 6:24:39 AM

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In terms of the Egyptians altering their consciousness, two ideas come to mind. For one, they have blue lotus imagery found all over their art and culture, and as one of the myths go, they believed that the entire universe started upon the opening of a blue lotus on the Nile. Obviously blue lotus isn't hallucinogenic, but it is psychoactive.

The other idea that comes to mind (and that may go hand in hand with the blue lotus) is the concept of sensory deprivation. If one were to lay in the sarcophagus in the Great Pyramid at Giza, sensory deprivation hallucinations would kick in after not too long from both lack of light and sound as well. When you couple sensory deprivation with esoteric theories that there is a large subtle energy component to the Great Pyramid, and bring it all on home with some blue lotus intoxication, and I think you have a ripe mind state for thoroughly exploring consciousness.
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"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
 
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