I've been doing some reading up on preparing San Pedro powder, and other than performing 69Rons TEK, I'm more confused than when I started.

I have a few hundred grams of material and I'd like an easy way to consume it. I'm going to attempt 69Rons TEK as soon as my orange oil arrives, but in the meantime can I boil it into a tea and strain it? If I do that how do I know what dose to use?

Lots of conflicting info on the forum.

Some advice for a newb, please.

Thanks!

Paul

if you have a pressure cooker it will greatly help
the trick with brewing cacti powder is pouring off the tea without getting too much substrate in the collection vessel
rather than straining just add fresh water to the soup and pour it off after a good cook 30-45 min
keep repeating this until the water your pouring off is clear/non bitter (probably 4-5 of these half decants)

reduce all collections to a liter or two

then let your tea decant for a couple of hours and cool, decant again/pour off away from cacti that settled in your collection vessel

reduce the tea again down to a few hundred ml's

you can either drink it as is (let it cool first though) or proceed to an a/b
or
you can dehydrate/evap the rest to make resin (found in the wiki "resin tek" )

I don't know much myself but friends might..
Check out:

http://www.drugs-forum.c.../showthread.php?t=117670

Also:

If I were you I would boil about 40-60g for about 2 hours then filter all the glup out and put the liquid to one side. Boil the glup again for 2 hours and then again filter the glup and put the liquid with the liquid you saved from the previous boil and again, boil the glup for two hour. When you filter the glup tru and squeeze as much slim out of the mess as possible using a old T-shirt or something simular and twisting so all the goo is squeezed out. After you have boiled at least 3 time (you can boil for long and more times for better results) put all the liquid/glup you saved and boil down to a vodka shot glass full and then drink.

Be prepared for a nastiest taste and a really heavy body load, you may get nausea but all bad effects fade within 30-90 minutes and you may not get any bad effects at all. Strap yourself in for a hell of a ride

And last:

http://www.hipforums.com.../showthread.php?t=375368





Hope these help. Good luck bud.

Why 2 hours, it's powdered.I was under the impression that simply adding the powder to water and bringing to a simmer in a saucepan for say 20 minutes would cause it to dissolve into a green liquid, which could be acidified with lemons, and chugged down when cool, 'whilst pinching the nose'.

christan said:



As soon as you add water to powdered material it turns into a slimey mess. About the consistancy of snot. After boiling it for awhile, the emulsion breaks and then you can filter or decant (and repeat). This is why you don't want to ingest all that powder, it turns into that slimey snot inside your stomach and you barf it up . Some people can pull it off, but not me. Making the tea or syrup is the best way to go IMO.

Good luck!!!!

YEA, and some can't, hahaha!!

Trust what Bezerker says here. As soon as you add the water it will turn to snot and be completely unstrainable. I think acidification with either lemons or vinegar helps break the emulsion, but even more helpful is to add excess water. If you are adding minimal water you will be cooking forever to get any separatation. Add a lot of water and cook in a pressure cooker, if you have one, at 15 psi for 45 minutes.

Once you strain it through T-shirt material, let it sit in the fridge for a couple of hours then carefully pour off the liquid and leave the sludge on the bottom behind. Now boil down the liquid you poured off to a reasonable amount. It tastes horrible, but it will get you there.

this is how its done...





im glad this has become staple knowledge, thank you nexians for affirming my conviction in our species!

Yes, but what if you can drink the 'green goop', saves all that t shirt stuff!?

if you can ingest the powder, then skip the cooking and just add a bit of liquid to glob it up into balls for immediate ingestion

this is how i used to do tea for many years
just be sure to pre-boil the snot before adding to the pc
boil until the foaming stops or your pc can over flow dangerously
also- fridge decanting is best done overnight(12-24hrs) in my experience

also great advise ^^

alot of stuff settles to the bottom of the vessel after being "slept" in the fridge

decant away from insolubles and evap carefully

so boil in water, pass thru t shirt, leave in fridge, decant. should it be a clear liquid in the end? don't sediments contain actives?

boil 45 min
let sediment settle
pour into reduction vessel
begin reduction (do not let the reduction burn)


repeat x3 more times


reduce all liquid to a liter or two

let settle in frigde overnight

decant/ pour away from sediment

reduce decanted tea to:
1. a drinkable amount
2. a few hundred ml's before dehydrating into resin




*note* if you properly extracted the alkaloids with water there is little to nothing left in the insoluble material. it should be discarded.

Thanks ipuma, but isn't it easier to boil then pass through a t shirt, scrape off boil again, pass though again,etc, then leave sit overnight before decanting?

no

decanting is the best way to deal with cacti solutions

even after arduous filtering there is still a decant necessary to ensure insoluble free solution, so why not save yourself the hassle of squeezing out the pulp snot and just get it all after a decant.

i used to trouble myself with filtering but found it to be an obsolete step