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#1 Posted : 12/2/2012 10:24:00 AM

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http://www.telegraph.co....s-calming-as-valium.html

I figured this would be of interest to this community. What do you all make of these findings?
 

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#2 Posted : 12/2/2012 10:55:19 AM

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Interesting but it's not really surprising. Jasmine is known to have small amounts of Ibogaine alkaloids [source] and it's smell is just wonderful anyway.
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#3 Posted : 12/2/2012 1:43:08 PM

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#4 Posted : 12/2/2012 4:20:39 PM
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cool, ill stick some jasmine oil on my clothes next time im going for a heavy dose trip, thanks for sharing Thumbs up
 
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#5 Posted : 12/3/2012 12:04:56 AM

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The chinese Star Jasmine is also interesting (although in a different family to other jasmines) .

Quote:


"In essence, 50 kg of apparently fresh leaves and stems were extracted and purified to obtain 20 grams of a mixture of alkaloids, a major one of which was ibogaine."


"(There are) four indole alkaloids, namely ibogaine, tabernaemontanine, vobasine, and voacangine-7-hydroxyindolenine, (that) have been isolated (in Star Jasmine)."


Interesting.

BTW - all of those alkaloids are good stuff.


Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.c...hp?t=87514#ixzz2DwUAsRZO


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The main alkaloid found in the leaves and stems of Trachelospermum jasminoides is ibogaine, along with tabernaemontanine, vobasine and voacangine-7-hydroxyindolenine (this last one is possibly an extraction artefact). The total alkaloid content is about 0.04%, but no percentages were given for the separate alkaloids. There is at least one anecdotal reference of a researcher ingesting a quantity of seeds of this species, resulting in strong effects (no more details than that known).
http://www.shaman-austra...index.php?showtopic=1774

Stronger than Valium that one! I'd say.Smile
 
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#6 Posted : 12/27/2012 6:21:21 AM

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so could one put a jasmine oil in an e-cig for a nice relaxation?
or do the oils not have the correct molecules?

if not, what would be a viable method of extraction?

also would these GABA receptors interact with MAOI in any way?
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#7 Posted : 12/29/2012 5:44:17 PM

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I knew there was some reason why Jasmine flower was so great in Changa! Cool
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#8 Posted : 1/13/2013 7:15:21 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
so could one put a jasmine oil in an e-cig for a nice relaxation?
or do the oils not have the correct molecules?

if not, what would be a viable method of extraction?

How hot do those e-cig's get? The volatile oils in jasmine are quite heat sensitive, but it might be a viable option.

Commercially jasmine oil is produced either by supercritical CO2 extraction (aka needing a lot of very expensive machinery), or by solvent extraction in which a hydrocarbon solvent (which one you use influences the resulting oil) is added to the plant material to help dissolve the essential oil. The solution is filtered and concentrated by distillation, to yield a concrete (a substance containing resin, or a combination of wax and essential oil). Pure alcohol is used to extract the oil and when the alcohol evaporates, the oils are left behind.

The old school perfumery way to do it is to fill trays with animal fat, and then cover them in a layer of jasmine flowers. Each day you would pull off the old flowers and layer on new ones, until the fat is saturated with the jasmine oils. Then, you add pure alcohol to extract the oils and evaporate it.
 
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#9 Posted : 1/13/2013 8:51:45 PM

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From an online vendors listing for Jasmine Oil:
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You would not believe how helpful this scent is for panic attacks. Mix a few drops in a half ounce of carrier oil, and you have an extraordinarily relaxing rub. Jasmine blends well with beeswax, benzoin, bergamot, blood orange, rosewood, clary sage, clove, copal, coriander, currant bud, fennel, lavender, mimosa, orange blossom, petitgrain, rose, sandalwood, tonka bean, tuberose, violet leaf, and ylang ylang.
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#10 Posted : 1/13/2013 9:30:41 PM

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I don't know much about essential oils or how to use them, but I bought a bottle of jasmin oil after I first read this post, and now I just like to sniff the bottle every now and then, when I feel it's useful for some relaxation. It works very well for me. A couple of weeks ago I ran into a hysterical woman in the street who had had some serious relationship troubles. She was in all states and hyperventilating. We called the police for her and tried to calm her down but she was too upset. I think that, if I had that bottle of jasmin then I could have helped her calm down. Very powerful smell and I'm glad I've got to know it through this post Smile


Ilex wrote:

The old school perfumery way to do it is to fill trays with animal fat, and then cover them in a layer of jasmine flowers. Each day you would pull off the old flowers and layer on new ones, until the fat is saturated with the jasmine oils. Then, you add pure alcohol to extract the oils and evaporate it.


That's very helpful information and I'd like to look into that. Do you think vegetable oils will work as well?
 
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#11 Posted : 1/13/2013 9:37:32 PM

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spinCycle wrote:
From an online vendors listing for Jasmine Oil:
Quote:
You would not believe how helpful this scent is for panic attacks. Mix a few drops in a half ounce of carrier oil, and you have an extraordinarily relaxing rub. Jasmine blends well with beeswax, benzoin, bergamot, blood orange, rosewood, clary sage, clove, copal, coriander, currant bud, fennel, lavender, mimosa, orange blossom, petitgrain, rose, sandalwood, tonka bean, tuberose, violet leaf, and ylang ylang.
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i am almost positive they are referring to pudica. though that might indicate there is no negative MAOI interaction.
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How hot do those e-cig's get? The volatile oils in jasmine are quite heat sensitive, but it might be a viable option.

hot enough to burn dmt if you hold the button down the entire inhalation, but if you feather it, you can get it to not even do that (whilst diminishing the amount atomized, obviously).

to be honest i am not really a fan of the e-cig (yet! i have yet to devise a potent oil that burns right), but it was a gift, so i am grateful Big grin.

i think investing in a low-resistance cartomizer might be well worth it as it is impossible to fill my lungs in one breath with the standard cartomizer i got, but i have yet to try one to see if the difference is negligible or not.

Ilex wrote:
The old school perfumery way to do it is to fill trays with animal fat, and then cover them in a layer of jasmine flowers. Each day you would pull off the old flowers and layer on new ones, until the fat is saturated with the jasmine oils. Then, you add pure alcohol to extract the oils and evaporate it.

how do you separate the alcohol from the animal fat?
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