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#1 Posted : 12/20/2012 9:17:28 PM

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Hello,

I am not sure I understand this correctly but is it the case that in The Machine smoking device that the copper/steel wool is wrapped in such a way that you just insert the crystals into a small hole in the middle and let them sit there while you vaporize it?

How exactly do you load DMT into The Machine's wool?
 

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#2 Posted : 12/20/2012 11:08:25 PM

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You understood it wrong. One way to do it is to heat the copper mesh and let DMT melt into it. Then insert the mesh back to machine and vaporize it.

There are other ways too. Try to use search button Pleased

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#3 Posted : 12/20/2012 11:43:32 PM

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That's what I don't get. I thought the whole point of vaporizing is not to incinerate the DMT or it denatures. If you are melting DMT into the copper mesh are you not doing just that and why isn't it vaporizing there and then?

I have searched around but I have been reading this https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m.../Lime_A/B_Extraction_Tek

This was the main link from it...

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/The_Machine

Yet it doesn't seem to cover the info I need.

In fact this http://www.shroomery.org...r/9570496/fpart/all/vc/1 seems to suggest the way I just described it only that this time the DMT sits on top of the steel wool.
 
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#4 Posted : 12/21/2012 12:46:02 AM

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The only way that makes any sense to me is to stack a few metal screens in the bottom of a deep/wide bowl, and put a piece of steel scrubber on top of that. The metal protects the crystals from getting hit directly by the flame, but plenty of hot air is able to pass over them. like you said, putting the spice on top totally defeats the purpose.
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#5 Posted : 12/21/2012 1:22:08 AM

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Take a look at my post in the in the NEED SOME HELP SMOKING! Thread on the bottom of the second page of this Open Discussions forum... i'd link u to it but I'm on my phone and can't copy it. Check the last post on that thread, that is how I use and load the machine.. hope it helps.
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#6 Posted : 12/21/2012 1:22:21 AM

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ALTERED.STATES wrote:
That's what I don't get. I thought the whole point of vaporizing is not to incinerate the DMT or it denatures. If you are melting DMT into the copper mesh are you not doing just that and why isn't it vaporizing there and then?

because the melting temperature is considerably lower than the boiling (vaporizing) temp.
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#7 Posted : 12/21/2012 6:35:55 AM

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How exactly do you melt it on?
 
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#8 Posted : 12/21/2012 7:28:03 AM

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ALTERED.STATES wrote:
How exactly do you melt it on?


Flatten the mesh a bit and heat it up with torch lighter. It does not have to be very hot. You will get it right once you tried few times.Its not rocket science Smile Then put your dose of spice on it. It will melt right in. Then put the mesh back into the machine and start vaporizing.

Have you done your extraction yet ?

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#9 Posted : 12/21/2012 12:32:11 PM

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Ah ok yes that makes sense. Hot metal wool, melt crystals, insert, up temps and vaporize.

I will wait until after Christmas to do the extraction.

I was thinking of maybe doing some shrooms I have here and then at the peak of the shrooms taking a hit of DMT.

McKenna said he once did LSD and DMT that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGYa2frO2LM
 
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#10 Posted : 12/21/2012 12:57:04 PM

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ALTERED.STATES wrote:

I was thinking of maybe doing some shrooms I have here and then at the peak of the shrooms taking a hit of DMT.



Tomorrow my cat for first time is going to do the same.... 3 or 4 gram of shrooms and 40 mg of spice in the top of the experience.... He can´t wait!!!Thumbs up
 
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#11 Posted : 12/21/2012 5:32:14 PM

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#12 Posted : 12/21/2012 5:46:26 PM

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my first time was with .5g mushrooms with about 30 mg of DMT.

They go very well together.
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#13 Posted : 12/22/2012 9:06:50 AM

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Nice.

I actually did shrooms about 20 times this year. Each one roughly 5g dry.

You may enjoy my photo collection.

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