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#1 Posted : 12/13/2012 3:15:29 AM
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I went to my local headshop today looking for a freebase pipe without success, and I don't really want to use the sandwich method, so I was wondering if it's possible to plug up the hole of a regular weed bowl, put the spice on the bottom, and freebase normally. Anybody ever have success with this?
 

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#2 Posted : 12/13/2012 8:33:43 AM

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What is the spice?Why don't you want to use sandwich method?I have been successful with foil method before but with a terrible taste,then I tried sandwich method with a bong and it was really enough for me,I don't think to try anything this time,maybe try to do a machine later.Use a standard or handmade bong,use 2-3 screen bottom,put some ashes on the screens,put freebase on the ashes and put some weed or something else like weed on top.Burn the weed quickly and inhale slowly.It's good to use 1-1.5 L bong.Try to take all smoke at a time or 2.Wait as you can and you will be gone in 8-10 seconds I guess.
 
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It can be done, yes. I would recommend cleaning your pipe completely of resin. That way once your spice builds up, you can collect the residue with naphtha and not have to worry about pulling anything else.

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What is the spice?


Spice is slang for DMT.
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#4 Posted : 12/13/2012 10:59:48 AM

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The Electric Hippy wrote:
It can be done, yes. I would recommend cleaning your pipe completely of resin. That way once your spice builds up, you can collect the residue with naphtha and not have to worry about pulling anything else.

march wrote:
What is the spice?


Spice is slang for DMT.


I thought astronomad think to use spice and freebase as 2 different substances,I guess the problem is my bad English Smile
 
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#5 Posted : 12/13/2012 11:36:38 AM

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I suggest you make some DMT enhanced leaf using your favorite herb, hot water and 15 to 20 minutes of your time. Use the DMT enhanced leaf using hot warm bath TEK for this.

I've discovered that smoking Changa is much easier to than smoking from between a herb sandwhich. It's also much easier to dose because it is more bulky and weighs more. You could even mix it with caapi leaf if you want some harmalas with your DMT. And smoking from a bong is very smooth because it's water filtered.

For the most effective inhalation I usually fill up the lower half of my bong by slowly inhaling so it forms a very thick cloud. I then exhale through my nose to completely empty my lungs and then inhale all the smoke in one go getting the smoke all deep into my lungs for efficient absorption.

Mind you, the attached pic contains hash smoke, not DMT. Got me quite high too.
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VoidTraveler wrote:

For the most effective inhalation I usually fill up the lower half of my bong by slowly inhaling so it forms a very thick cloud. I then exhale through my nose to completely empty my lungs and then inhale all the smoke in one go getting the smoke all deep into my lungs for efficient absorption.

Interesting technique!

I have to try that too one day, it sounds like a perfect way to inhale all in one big pull.


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Interesting technique!

I have to try that too one day, it sounds like a perfect way to inhale all in one big pull.


It takes a bit of practice in order to inhale at the correct speed so that the smoke stays in the lower end of the bong but once you got it right it's a breeze. I usually have a tiny bit of loss of smoke because usually a very small amount does float up but that's negligible.
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#8 Posted : 12/13/2012 1:04:15 PM

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march wrote:
The Electric Hippy wrote:
It can be done, yes. I would recommend cleaning your pipe completely of resin. That way once your spice builds up, you can collect the residue with naphtha and not have to worry about pulling anything else.

march wrote:
What is the spice?


Spice is slang for DMT.


I thought astronomad think to use spice and freebase as 2 different substances,I guess the problem is my bad English Smile


The word "spice" as is used most commonly on this forum refers to DMT. Practically anywhere else you go, if you use the term "spice" in a drug context, people will most likely thinking you're referring to synthetic marijuana.
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#9 Posted : 12/13/2012 1:43:43 PM

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VoidTraveler wrote:
I suggest you make some DMT enhanced leaf using your favorite herb, hot water and 15 to 20 minutes of your time. Use the DMT enhanced leaf using hot warm bath TEK for this.

I've discovered that smoking Changa is much easier to than smoking from between a herb sandwhich. It's also much easier to dose because it is more bulky and weighs more. You could even mix it with caapi leaf if you want some harmalas with your DMT. And smoking from a bong is very smooth because it's water filtered.

For the most effective inhalation I usually fill up the lower half of my bong by slowly inhaling so it forms a very thick cloud. I then exhale through my nose to completely empty my lungs and then inhale all the smoke in one go getting the smoke all deep into my lungs for efficient absorption.

Mind you, the attached pic contains hash smoke, not DMT. Got me quite high too.


Thanks for the information,it seems great.
 
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#10 Posted : 12/15/2012 5:52:14 PM
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Well, the reason I don't want to use methods other than freebasing is because my first two attempts were done with a freebase pipe (purchased at a music festival out of town, head shops around here only sell freebase pipes as a hash pipe attachment, not for individual sale), and I think I have the best chances of success freebasing since I have personal familiarity with the method. A friend of mine said he can make a freebase pipe if I bring him a test tube or a glass tube that is closed on one end so I'll look around for one of these instead. Wish me luck!
 
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#11 Posted : 12/15/2012 9:37:39 PM

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I would use a sos pad. tear a small chunk to put in bowl first, then freebase, then more sos pad ontop of that. It works really really good. It is a way that won't let you burn it. It works everytime!
 
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#12 Posted : 12/16/2012 3:16:35 AM

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Make some changa is a good way. But you can smoke it with some MJ or any other leaf. Depends what you're working with. If you have the fluffy white you have to be extra careful not to burn it. but if you have unXed chop it up finely and top the herb you're using. Hold the lighter over about a 1/2 inch. slowly pull until the spice dissolves into the herb then smoke like you normally would. Don't pack too much herb, you want to be able to induldge in one toke. This is how I have been smoking. You get the hang of it pretty quick.

-designate a pipe, because it will smell like spice until you clean it, and everything you smoke will have a spice taste.
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-designate a pipe, because it will smell like spice until you clean it, and everything you smoke will have a spice taste.


And a spice feeling as well Big grin

I was smoking a bowl not long ago, and decided to go for a resin hit. It made the grass and trees just... so beautiful.
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#14 Posted : 12/16/2012 11:14:07 PM
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I would use a sos pad. tear a small chunk to put in bowl first, then freebase, then more sos pad ontop of that. It works really really good. It is a way that won't let you burn it. It works everytime!


I may try this, does anything come off the sos pad that's unsafe to inhale?
 
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#15 Posted : 12/17/2012 12:26:41 AM

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You have to burn it first with fire until stuff stops coming off of it. Do some research on it because there are brands that I have seen suggested here on the nexus that seem to be safer. I Just got what I could find, and burned it over a ten minute period and washed it off and let it dry. After that it was ready to go. I've used that method for over a year sometimes using twice a week and I never had any problems with it. But I never thought DMT was harsh or tasted bad either so I guess it depends. But the method really does protect you from burning it I have found as long as you sandwhich the dmt between layers of sos pad. And hit it like your soul is thirsty. Good luck.
 
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Whats wrong with everything tasting and smelling like spice? I love the taste and smell... soooo delicious and healing Very happy
 
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#17 Posted : 12/19/2012 12:24:20 PM
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somethingsintheway wrote:
You have to burn it first with fire until stuff stops coming off of it. Do some research on it because there are brands that I have seen suggested here on the nexus that seem to be safer. I Just got what I could find, and burned it over a ten minute period and washed it off and let it dry. After that it was ready to go. I've used that method for over a year sometimes using twice a week and I never had any problems with it. But I never thought DMT was harsh or tasted bad either so I guess it depends. But the method really does protect you from burning it I have found as long as you sandwhich the dmt between layers of sos pad. And hit it like your soul is thirsty. Good luck.


Cool, thanks so much for the information
 
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astronomad wrote:
I went to my local headshop today looking for a freebase pipe without success, and I don't really want to use the sandwich method, so I was wondering if it's possible to plug up the hole of a regular weed bowl, put the spice on the bottom, and freebase normally. Anybody ever have success with this?

es I did this for about a year. It works but works like Sht. The glass is too thick in weed pipes, takes too long to get the dmt to temp and then you always over heat because the glass wont let go of the building heat. You basicly burn your spice and it takes far too long to administer the dmt in the short time window. IMO.its the worst way to vape dmt.

What do you have against a good sandwich method? Surprised It works almost as good as infused leaf and is some very experienced peoples preferred method. Id rather use a good sandwich in a bong than a GVG anyday.

Do what you feel is right for you but your going to waste spice if you use a weed pipe mate. Trust me.
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astronomad wrote:
somethingsintheway wrote:
I would use a sos pad. tear a small chunk to put in bowl first, then freebase, then more sos pad ontop of that. It works really really good. It is a way that won't let you burn it. It works everytime!


I may try this, does anything come off the sos pad that's unsafe to inhale?

SOS name brand pads are not the same as copper or stainless steel mesh washing scrubber !!!!!! SOS pads are loaded with chemicals, soap and are too fine and simply burn.

DO NOT USE S.O.S. PADS!Shocked You want whats named a choreboy.
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#20 Posted : 12/20/2012 9:06:59 PM
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olympus mon wrote:
astronomad wrote:
I went to my local headshop today looking for a freebase pipe without success, and I don't really want to use the sandwich method, so I was wondering if it's possible to plug up the hole of a regular weed bowl, put the spice on the bottom, and freebase normally. Anybody ever have success with this?

es I did this for about a year. It works but works like Sht. The glass is too thick in weed pipes, takes too long to get the dmt to temp and then you always over heat because the glass wont let go of the building heat. You basicly burn your spice and it takes far too long to administer the dmt in the short time window. IMO.its the worst way to vape dmt.

What do you have against a good sandwich method? Surprised It works almost as good as infused leaf and is some very experienced peoples preferred method. Id rather use a good sandwich in a bong than a GVG anyday.

Do what you feel is right for you but your going to waste spice if you use a weed pipe mate. Trust me.


Well I suppose that option is out, we ended up deciding on the sandwich method but as I stated before, both times I have used DMT (which have both been without breakthrough success) I used a freebase pipe, and I think I have the highest chances of success with this method since I have a familiarity with it and have learned a good deal about the proper technique from my failures. But anyway, if all goes well I will be making my third attempt tomorrow, any last minute advice? Smile
 
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