I have recieved >3000 Morning Glory seeds (Heavenly Blue) and plan on (in a low light enviroment) extracting the LSAs with 40% Vodka (700 ml)
I figured that that will give me about 4 ug per 1 ml of liquid.

Im going to leave the seed powder sit in the vodka for 3 days then strain and discard the seed powder. To test potency I will take 50 ml in a shot and see where that takes me. I will also smoke some cannabis for nausea (and why not).

Im going add a acetaldehyde containing herb or two (most likely cinnomin or peppermint). and let that sit for 3 days then strain and I will be left with LSH (if it works, seeing as many members reffer to it as a hit or miss reaction)



I want to trip have a moderate trip from the LSH, (if you want to equivalent it to LSD as some do, I would want it to be around the potency of 2 - 2.5 hits of LSD [200-250 ug])
I dont want to overshoot the mark and have this anxiety that people tend to get on higher doses.

Dose anyone have an approxmiate dosage in mls that they would suggest?


I am going to meditate during the come up and the come down. during the peak I am going to smoke some cannabis and do breathwork (last time I did this I achieved samadhi) and try to activate the chakras.

I havent heard of anyone using LSH for healing though. Some would say that a good trip on anything (even [actually especially] MDxx). But I am not just looking for a good trip. I want to learn how to heal myself on the etheric level.

They say meditation can cure any illness, I honestly believe that, and want to learn how to do it myself.

Does anyone have any suggestions or experience with healing through the psychedelic experience (such as ayahuasca) here have any advice? I am only going on intent here, and I dont want to chant Mantras becuase its soo heavily based on hinduism and I cannot fully immerse my consciouness in something I do not 100 percent believe.

Thank you ^_^

I would suggest a CWE method imitating traditional use, but good luck!

why do people keep calling it something it's not?
call it what it is... a minty LSA tea.

no use speculating a reaction that isn't particularly favorable. you're ingesting LSA with other ergine derivatives, not LSH.

even if it were LSH, your stomach acid would convert it back to LSA, no?

saliva would convert it back to lsa, let alone stomach acid. lsh is readily hydrolyzed to lsa.
i don't know what makes people think they can do some addition reactions simply by adding essential
oils. it doesn't work like that.

It would be very interesting to trace back the origins of this online myth.

From what I heard, Albert Haffman himself did a synthesis of LSH from some form of LSA using acetyldehyde and said it was the closest thing to natural LSD... I have heard numerous times that he also ate 1000 morning glory seeds but I cannot find anything on this, I searched the erowid archives and everything.


But it does not matter that much if it really does convert, as I am more interested in the healing that can be done with the use of psychedelics. I was only asking for suggestions on dose. I am not trying to make this thread all about LSH (as this topic is full of bullshit and not the main topic).

I will tell report back (I am going to be writing my trip down) if there is any differance between the 50 ml of LSA without Acetaldehyde, and the one with Acetaldehyde (Does anyone have any suggestion for dosage? I Honestly dont know how potent LSH is [If it is active at all seeing as it isnt very stable and turns back to LSA rather quick])


If I only get LSA effects, atleast it will not taste soo bad (my friend who did the LSH tek said it tasted good and had no nausea aswell).

Does anyone have any information on healing, whether it be a form of purifying the nadis, or forms of purging (I plan of purging before the experience). The only other thing I am going to do is listen to 528 hz and breathwork.

i have had LSA experiences that felt as intense as LSD without any nausea.

just throwing that out there.

This post from Eliyahu was helpful for me when it comes to morning glories.

I prefer fresh seeds over dried seeds any day of the week.

My recommendation is to plant whatever seeds you don't eat and grow them fresh and organically.

Build a relationship with your vines and then enjoy the fresh seeds when they are ready.

It's a much better experience all around.

↑this

when i went to CA there were morning glories everywhere (purpurea unfortunately), if i lived in the right climate, there would be literally thousands of these vines in my neighborhood.

but my two indoor ololiuqui's will suffice (my morning glories are now dead, but i still got seeds, so when it starts to warm up i will grow indoors and bring em out when just when the weather gets optimal).


also fresh flower and fresh (ololiuqui) leaf can be pretty cool (idk if i would do morning glory leafs without a CWE as it may have nasties). i add them to changa, munch on them, or soak in red wine (actually adds a nice flavor - especially morning glory flowers - i thought it paired well with gnarlyhead).

but yea, fresh seed pods if you can get them are the best way to go, without question.

acetaldehyde (b.p. 20.2C) is a gas at room temp (25C).

I apologize if this is too off topic.

By far in my study and experience the most spectacular effects from MG seeds are from CWE, cold water extractions.
It is debatable that LSA is the psychedelic agent in these seeds and their allies.

In terms of healing, CWE has been used for centuries if not longer.

One issue that I would like to address is that morning glory extracts have LSA in them, but are not pure and have other alkaloids as well, but are being called LSA, as if the LSA has been purified and is all that is there.

I can't find any reports of alleged LSH that are superior to various reports of CWE, and in the case of both of these methods there are still reports of inactivity from time to time. This might be due to the source plant, as that not all specimens contain alkaloids, because of the fungal pairing responsible and how you can eliminate the fungus and thus the alkaloids from the plant.

69rons method uses peppermint leaves does it not? There are a lot of interesting phenolics present that might explain what is happening as opposed to the LSH reaction.

Whatever the case, I still stand by the CWE for healing.

interesting theory, AKL.

Interesting. Most of the spychonauts that know little about chemistry wouldnt know that. I sure didnt. Im starting chemistry though so I will keep note. Ive seen a lot of your posts here on the Nexus Benzyme and you seem to have a good amount of knowledge.








True, cwe has been used for quite some time on ololiuqui seeds (which a lot of people just say is another type of morning glory [im still very confused about that]). I wonder if they had access to high proof alcohol if they would have done alcohol extractions on them and evaporated them for a purer substance? Probably not actually haha.

I might just do a cwe now. I'll make it 1 ml for every seed. that'll be atleast 3 liters of water though. Does LSA degrade over time if kept in a dark place? I live in Australia and as you might know our summers are during American winters. So it gets up to 45 degress here sometimes (kinda rare its usually 36 Celsius). The best I could do to keep it out of light is keep it in a little fridge, otherwise I'd keep it in a drawer that never gets opened.





As for planting. I plan on doing this. Not for the seeds but I love the look of the flower
Its almost impossible to get the seeds here in Australia. Its like they dont even make seeds. They just grow like a noxious vine O_o?