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changalvia
#1 Posted : 12/6/2012 11:21:14 AM

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There is someone else inside my room.

I was sitting on the edge of my bed, I loaded a tiny bit to see if I would get threshold effects, as most of the time when I load up it ends in misfire (Not delivery technique – Body Chemistry / Mental Blockage / Distraction). It felt about as strong as some of the 60mg doses I have smoked with minimal effect, so I assumed if I were to vape a 60mg dose I would blast off.

After about two minutes I noticed myself zoning out into the wall so I loaded a proper dose, put on some soft music and got comfortable with my back against some pillows (near horizontal position) and I started vaping.

I felt a strong vibration coming up my spine and that’s when I realised I wanted to sit upright rather as this is what it felt like the last time I had gotten sleep paralysis in journey #42. The music got incredibly loud so I got up to put it off. When I went to the radio I noticed all these bugs along my floor, everything looked hostile in a way, yet on a microscopic level (poison, bites, parasites, etc). I kept seeing something dart in and out of my peripheral vision, only to notice nothing was there. This is when I started to have weird thoughts. I started to feel like I was going insane, and asked myself questions like

“How sure are you that you can really trust this molecule?”

After a few minutes of paranoia I decided to try and finish my dose. Sitting cross-legged in the centre of my bed I took another toke and soon stopped – I felt an insane presence again, almost like that time death came to “visit” me.

More about that here: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=35625

I caught a glimpse of some kind of lost soul / spirit with my mind half in and half out of the 4th dimension, it was floating around me in circles as I sat on the bed. I could see it through an invisible membrane of some sort. Very hard to describe. It’s like I was sitting in this reality but I could see into that reality without leaving this one. I could not tell if it was hostile or not, although it had a lank serious presence about it and it freaked me out, as I had no idea of it’s capabilities if I had to step my other foot into its realm.

This is when I put down my machine and looked up to the light above my head. My mouth was hanging open and I started to feel / hear an odd popping sound coming from the tip of my tongue and rising up to the roof.
It was like any second something was either going to use my body to speak or act something out, or something was coming into my body. I swear it felt like that sound he thing in “the Grudge” makes.

I instantly made an escape from the room and went to the TV. I put the lights off and tried to sleep, but as soon as everything went quiet I kept hearing a haunting crying sound in the room with me… It wasn’t my dog or my cat and the spice had worn off already.

This Is the third journey I have had that is negative and to do with unwanted presences in my room.. and it all started happening around mid august this year. It ONLY occurs in my room.

Anyway, when I felt that psychosis kind of thing and asked myelf the question: “Can I really trust this molecule” , I think I was being misled by myself.

I have since started to think, and question if the real feeling I got that night was:

“Can I really trust this reality?

I would be really interested to see if anyone else has ever experienced this kind of apprehension with regard to trusting the molecule and / or reality.

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zombicyckel
#2 Posted : 12/6/2012 11:40:31 AM

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Woah sounds freaking scary!! thanks for sharing

Not done dmt yet, but I can relate to the fear. Ive woken up with my entire room covered in spiders(I like them otherwise). Ran like a mad man out of the room. Then one time one big ass spider like 1,5meter x 1.5 was staring at me when I woke up. Only seen them in painful periods. gotta get the good vibes going Razz

 
3rdI
#3 Posted : 12/6/2012 11:51:30 AM

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hello changalvia

i cant speak of trusting the molecule as i definitely trust it, for better of worse i trust it to deliver what it will.

I can however resonate with “Can I really trust this reality?”, ever since i started working with DMT/Pharma/Aya i have had a weird feeling that pops up mainly when im alone, be it at home or walking around town, i look around and think that at any minute it could all change and that i wouldnt be very surprised if it did.

Its an odd kind of feeling, i wonder if it is similar to the feeling that religous folk might have, its makes me think i know this is real but is it really real? I have had some crazy journeys where i have been in a place as normal and real as consensus reality and this place has then been dissolved as i dropped back into my bedroom, so this has led me to think that it could happen at any point as how can i know if where i am is real or not, how can i trust it?

i actaully quite like the feeling its exciting and it has made me appreciate how cool right now is.
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Felnik
#4 Posted : 12/6/2012 1:45:17 PM

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I've reached a distrustful point in my relationship with it this stuff.
I'm on an extended break from it.

A few episodes of paranoia with it I would expect to be normal.

I've been on an extended run of super crazy nut job level weirdness with it for too long.

At what point do we trust our instincts? whats real? what stories do our minds build around these experiences?

I submit that if the same things are happening over and over and over again its something that needs to be looked at or stayed far away from.

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changalvia
#5 Posted : 12/6/2012 7:34:09 PM

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zombicyckle,

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Woah sounds freaking scary!! thanks for sharing

Not done dmt yet, but I can relate to the fear. Ive woken up with my entire room covered in spiders(I like them otherwise). Ran like a mad man out of the room. Then one time one big ass spider like 1,5meter x 1.5 was staring at me when I woke up. Only seen them in painful periods. gotta get the good vibes going


haha what caused you to see all that? Other psychs or just a waking state? Good vibes everywhere! Big grin


cyb,

Quote:
hello changalvia

i cant speak of trusting the molecule as i definitely trust it, for better of worse i trust it to deliver what it will.

I can however resonate with “Can I really trust this reality?”, ever since i started working with DMT/Pharma/Aya i have had a weird feeling that pops up mainly when im alone, be it at home or walking around town, i look around and think that at any minute it could all change and that i wouldnt be very surprised if it did.

Its an odd kind of feeling, i wonder if it is similar to the feeling that religous folk might have, its makes me think i know this is real but is it really real? I have had some crazy journeys where i have been in a place as normal and real as consensus reality and this place has then been dissolved as i dropped back into my bedroom, so this has led me to think that it could happen at any point as how can i know if where i am is real or not, how can i trust it?



i actaully quite like the feeling its exciting and it has made me appreciate how cool right now is.


RIGHT NOW is all you have and that is awesome to have something. I love it when I'm sitting outside on a pavement, on a mountain, anywhere and my mind slides off slightly into a different angle of looking at things, i blame/love psychedelics for this.

Sometimes I picture what people assume is going to happen on 2012, sky opening up etc haha reality obliverated

Felnik,


Quote:
I've reached a distrustful point in my relationship with it this stuff.
I'm on an extended break from it.

A few episodes of paranoia with it I would expect to be normal.

I've been on an extended run of super crazy nut job level weirdness with it for too long.

At what point do we trust our instincts? whats real? what stories do our minds build around these experiences?

I submit that if the same things are happening over and over and over again its something that needs to be looked at or stayed far away from.


Paranoia is 100% normal yes it's just the first time I experienced it to that degree. Maybe because the molecule IS THE degree of degrees. haha.

Like I posted I definitely had one of those distrustful moments, and to be honest I think I blame it on so many darn misfires!! How can you trust something that is so erratic??

Although I am over it now, I might one day have another one of those moments who knows..

As for taking breaks etc, I am totally past that "honey moon" phase (For CRAVE of a better term) and can definitely see myself cooling down even MORE during the years, however I dont think I will ever lay down the pipe for good... I could be wrong though. Anyone could be wrong.
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zombicyckel
#6 Posted : 12/6/2012 8:54:21 PM

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haha. I was completly sober Razz often lucid dream, like every night. but that spider thing def stood out quite alot. also had good things, like some animal rabbit peacefully watching me sleep.happens very rarely though like years in between.

I guess its best to take nothing as fact and get the good vibes going Very happy
 
 
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