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Mystic0
#1 Posted : 11/29/2012 7:14:35 PM

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I am not asking for Tek advice, or particular experience reports, merely, I would like to know the difference in intensity compared to that of smoalking freebase DMT, what am I likely to expect? Can you be caught in hyperspace for large amounts of time in OBE states?

I would also like an honest opinion on whether or not it matters to do Aya with a Shaman, a friend of ours recently had a dream where he was given plant knowledge, he's been thinking about Aya for a while and I'm considering making some and have been for quite some time since my first DMT experience.

I'm simply asking for a brief section of advice.
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#2 Posted : 11/29/2012 8:15:05 PM

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Mystic0 wrote:
I am not asking for Tek advice, or particular experience reports, merely, I would like to know the difference in intensity compared to that of smoalking freebase DMT, what am I likely to expect? Can you be caught in hyperspace for large amounts of time in OBE states?

I'm simply asking for a brief section of advice.


10 days ago I did pharmahuasca and was taken further than I've ever been via vaporising.
I still don't know why it was so intense. Unfortunately it was also quite negative and very very long.
The entities really took the gloves off with me. Though I learned some lessons and was ultimately better off for it.

If you have doubts, then ask yourself if you can ride out your worst vaped experience with a time factor of x10 added on.

That's my opinion based on half a dozen Ayah- type trips, with the one whopper as described.
Ultimately it comes down to dosages, ease yourself in.

I don't buy into the Shaman guidance aspect. Sure if you had the chance to do it in a native setting, that might be nice, it shouldn't stop you however DIY ing it, if you feel the call.
 
Jin
#3 Posted : 11/29/2012 8:50:17 PM

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depends entirely on doseage

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Mystic0
#4 Posted : 11/29/2012 9:50:26 PM

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arcanum wrote:
Mystic0 wrote:
I am not asking for Tek advice, or particular experience reports, merely, I would like to know the difference in intensity compared to that of smoalking freebase DMT, what am I likely to expect? Can you be caught in hyperspace for large amounts of time in OBE states?

I'm simply asking for a brief section of advice.


10 days ago I did pharmahuasca and was taken further than I've ever been via vaporising.
I still don't know why it was so intense. Unfortunately it was also quite negative and very very long.
The entities really took the gloves off with me. Though I learned some lessons and was ultimately better off for it.

If you have doubts, then ask yourself if you can ride out your worst vaped experience with a time factor of x10 added on.

That's my opinion based on half a dozen Ayah- type trips, with the one whopper as described.
Ultimately it comes down to dosages, ease yourself in.

I don't buy into the Shaman guidance aspect. Sure if you had the chance to do it in a native setting, that might be nice, it shouldn't stop you however DIY ing it, if you feel the call.


This is actually an answer I kind of expected which has given me a better thought process on it, I'm going to start on a low to medium dose next year, making it myself.

I think the answer your other question, could I cope with the worst experience I've had 10x, I'm unsure I can't say yes or no because my first experience with DMT was in some words, absolutely terrifying. Something is calling me to it, my thought's keep going back to Aya and I can't explain why. Need's to be done.
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dabear1990
#5 Posted : 11/30/2012 5:06:27 AM
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Hello, well being someone who has tried Aya a few time, though only had one powerful breakthrough with it, and another batch almost done. I must say I agree with Arc. Ease yourself in, I have brewed the stuff probably 4 times now with only my last batch truly breaking through. Best thing to do is ease in, I unfortunately, after two failed times, used to much chacruna. It entered a very bizarre 4.5hrs. If you want I can post my exp here, but needless to say it was not entirely pleasant. Parts were scary, time I wondered how I wasn't going to go insane, and times when I just felt euphoric. I did not get but one or two major visuals. The rest was mostly feelings and the majority, thankfully was shielded and blacked out from my mind by the Mother Vine. Be careful, trust her and she will lead you rightly.
 
 
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