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BlackSheep96
#1 Posted : 11/28/2012 8:35:32 PM

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Original Thread: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=18448

i realize that this is an old thread but i wanna throw out some other ideas. Sure DMT is found endogenously, but the levels at NORMAL OPERATION are not enough to cause any effects, GOT THAT. But i think we're forgetting that its endogenous use may not be something a part of normal operation. Maybe the body produces spikes under the right circumstances that would be sufficient to alter consciousness. Maybe it can even be purposely done. But my real idea is that maybe its main role is something from before birth. Maybe it has a role in the consciousness of the unborn. This is TOTAL conjecture, but i think that its an interesting possibility. What if THATS why it feels so familiar, because my first time, it felt pretty familiar and I've got quite a bit of deja'vu experiences, some of which were drug induced episodes lasting for 30 minutes plus, and this familiarity was not on par with deja'vu. (i full-heartedly accept the probability that all this is unfounded and wrong) What if its effects help with creating a person, kinda like some sort of diagnostic tool to check the systems in the brain and give them practice and solidarity before entering the world. Maybe this can open up some new lines of thought and help with the issue. PEACE Smile
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Nathanial.Dread
#2 Posted : 11/28/2012 11:32:17 PM

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There are a lot of theories about what exactly the roll of endogenous DMT is, but as far as I know, there hasn't been a whole lot of progress in figuring out what it is for.
Also, many of the original studies that showed you could find DMT in the spine and brain have since been criticized for their faulty methods. The amount of DMT you have in your system at any time may be a lot smaller then a lot of us think.

I'm not a biochemist, but I think it's a little early to be making conjectures about what exactly it is for.
The subjective similarities between a near-death experience and a DMT experience lead me to believe that there may be something to the notion that endogenous DMT is released in instances of serious stress or trauma.

What exactly the purpose of this would be, from an evolutionary perspective is beyond me. There's no real evolutionary benefit to making your last few minutes spiritually ecstatic.
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#3 Posted : 11/29/2012 12:42:57 AM

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BlackSheep96 wrote:
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but the levels at NORMAL OPERATION are not enough to cause any effects, GOT THAT.
Not necessarily. At the neurotransmitter level even nanograms of a substance can have effects. What we call a DMT trip I think is just flooding the system. ABNORMAL OPERATION Smile.
 
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#4 Posted : 11/29/2012 1:28:54 AM

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if you take the word in its technical sense brains are nothing but assemblages of affects ^. for this like everything else there are not just right and wrong answers, but right and wrong questions. the way to think about what's happening is in terms of emergent properties, functions which come into being relationally, the brain like anything else is composed of a set of elements which, by differential excitation combinations, is able to do something that its constituent elements, by themselves, can't do. the difficulty of studying what endogenous DMT's doing is the same as most other phenomena in that it's not reducible to binding affinities and physiological effects, its an elemental contribution to a chemical cascade of innumerable hormones, neurotransmitters, there's even a gas in there, parallel processes in a system made of 10 billion units ..
 
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#5 Posted : 11/29/2012 4:28:44 AM

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it's not a neurotransmitter in the neurochemistry context, because it's not released from vesicles following Ca2+ influx. it's an endogenous ligand.
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WannaBeShaman
#6 Posted : 12/3/2012 3:55:51 PM

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I have had Kundalini experiences from cannabis that I am almost certain released 5MeODMT due to overstimulation of the pineal gland. The first time was a total crown chakra explosion like a nuclear bomb went off in my head (which is the same thing that happened to Gopi Krishna during his Kundalini awakening.

I later smoked a blunt with about 5 other peoples, Lemon Kush. Amazing Cannabis experience. I truely believe that the brain can synthesise A number of psychoactive compounds.

Now when I smoke Cannabis it usually just makes me tired, I find the usually Indica Hydro to be a bit uneventful in its effects lately.

I Have entered into Transendent states which alot of people would call Samadhi. To me they were true Samadhi because it was an achievment of conscioussness I did with my mind.
I smoked furiously a massive joint and did pranyama and altered myself to something incredicble. after the first two times It becomes more explainable

the second time I felt like everything became super still and pure. smooth white like papyrus paper. Transcendent bliss of hapiness that I had gotton somewhere on my journey.

I went into a weird state when went outside.
I saw my hand but actually moved my etheric body outside. my real hand slowly followed my etheric hand until it was bank in place.


I once heard from a wise shaman, that at some point you dont even need the ayahuasca to see the visions. Basic ego subsided Samadhis and kundalini awakening could possibly cause the body to create more endogenous DMT to an extent where you could take ayahuasca without the DMT plant and it would have a strong effect as if you took a plant with it.

I wish there was an experienced shaman or Yogi that could elaborate this futher. one thing is for sure. DMT has a role in the brain.
 
 
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