Hi all,

I have been reading this forums for months, but I just register now because I just got all the neccesary to be able to travel. The funny thing is that I have been trying for hours without being able to get more than very low effects. Mainly because a very bad technique. I have never smoked anything, so.. It's just hard for me.
My interest in DMT is very big, ever since I knew about It I have been reading and trying to be able to got all the knowledge and tools to produce and vaporize the DMT.
Now, I have the GVG, a lot of DMT, and a good lighter. And I'm not able to breakthrough.
Well, I will stop crying about it. I'm a eighteen years old guy, with big interest in the psychedelics. I have tried LSD, some 2c-x and 25x-nbome (don't recommend 25i-nbome, a months lasting hppd), mdma (not really, but..), ketamine, and shrooms, as I can go and take them myself.
I love engineering, computers, maths, movies, series and music. Right now I'm a student of computer science.
Hope that with your help I'm going to stop trashing DMT, and I finally can get the technique to smoke it well, and see the hyperspace.

Cheers

Hello Dersu,

Welcome to the Nexus. Thank you for taking the time to submit an Introductory Essay, .

Yeah, there is a distinct and significant learning curve that comes with vaporizing DMT correctly. And the GVG has a learning curve of it's own. I recommend using six (6) or more screens in your GVG - the crisscross mesh of the screens catches the melted DMT and saves it for future hits - it is not lost this way.

In terms of the GVG, my best advice is make love to it, don't f**k it. Exhale the air in your lungs and light your torch. While inhaling very slowly and gently, apply the torch gently to the ceramic plug of the pipe. While continuing to inhale, begin to move the flame in rapid little circles over the ceramic plug and also move it up and down so that it is not constantly in contact with the ceramic plug.

As you begin to see the tube of the pipe fill with visible vapor stop. Now exhale deeply and repeat the above procedure. This should give profound effects in a hit or two if not a deep breakthrough. Remember, the slower you inhale, the deeper a hit you will take.

Here is a link to the Preparations and Methods of Administration part of the forum. I'd recommend looking specifically at the Smoking an Changa links. Changa works great in my GVG. https://www.dmt-nexus.me...lt.aspx?g=forum&c=20 .

I hope this helps and that you will keep us posted. Again, welcome to the Nexus.

Hi Pandora,

I used 6-8 screens, I will try with the Choreboy scrubber tomorrow, just for trying.. maybe It's works better for me. Will see.
I have tried like 10 times today, with 30mg all times. Just wanted too much to trip, and got a bit obsessive about it.
My method was, with the screens, DMT and ceramic, start to do some profound exhales and inhales, then, in the last one, start with the torch and start inhaling, the DMT would dissapear quickly, but I would not feel almost any vapor. Then, I exhale (almost any vapor) and try again, but this times with harsh vapor, I do two long (10-20 seconds) as I can inhalations, the first one for 20 seconds inside, and the next one, until I have to breath.
I move and I try to control the vapor, to be less dense and harsh, but I don't see to manage it well.
So, in the first inhalation, Is it normal to don't get almost vapor ? And in the followings, get a strong vapor ?
I tried with the melted DMT in the screens (of the last tries) and I got hits, and pretty profound ones, with the first inhalation, so I suppose I just have to melt a little in the first one, and then do the first real inhalation no ?
I tried that also, but I didn't do it well, as I needed a first inhalation anyway, to melt the DMT well.
Maybe tomorrow I post a video or some photos of how I do it, so I can receive good advices.
I will post this also, in the topic of the VaporGenie, so all can help me, as I suppose here I'm missing many people.

Thanks for the welcome and the help. Muchas gracias, like we say in Spain.

Hmm, I'm not sure. Maybe you are trying too hard, need to set it down and try again in a day or so.

I do know that time is of the essence - DMT tolerance sets up almost immediately. You need to get the entire dose in fast - like in under 90 seconds or so. And it's important to make the first hit the biggest. This is why I explained in detail a tried and true technique that has worked for many of us - as described above one "warms up" the pipe before beginning to take the thick vapor hits.

It's ironic and a difficult equation to balance - one needs to take one's time getting a proper vaporized (and not harshly burnt) hit with the GVG - as I described proceed slowly and gently and inhale slowly. And yet one has very limited time to get the entire dose in before that tolerance sets up.


Another technique I've had success with is stacking doses - take a small dose in the allotted time with the GVG, lay back close my eyes, but as soon as the trance breaks, I immediately take another bigger dose. Obviously, with this technique I have loaded more than a single dose into my pipe.


Finally, I strongly recommend you check that changa tek. I love changa, it works great in the GVG and who knows, it might help.

Please keep us posted . . .

Bienvenido amigo,

Pandora is giving you already good advice. I just want to stress it again - take it easy. Try it again whenever you are relaxed, focused and not too eager. And changa is very, very easy to prepare, and much harder to do wrong.

The GVG is a great tool but it can be tricky in the first attempts, I also speak from experience.

Give it time and you'll get where you want. There is no hurry, it's not the end of the world

And welcome to the Nexus.

I was having the same problems. Heed Pandora's advice, she's a smart cookie. I wasted a shameful amount of spice in my frustration when I should have relaxed and left it a few days. Hang in there, once you figure it out you are in for quite an experience.