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.ps. on Paraserianthes lophantha, (see index and ID thread) now shown to be the closet relative of acacia..a world weed..no known chemical information..

below, a photo of a tree being sold as A. obtusifolia by a well known plant supplier..it is certainly not True obtusifolia! ..no doubt also good though..looks like longifolia in the family..
thank you to the trees..respect

If you move off the beach into the hind-dune forest, there is plenty of A. longifolia subsp. longifolia growing as well as A. sophorae. I can't say I've seen hybrids (but I'll keep a closer eye out in future). To complicate things further, we also have Acacia obtusifolia growing here and PlantNET suggests it is closely related to A. longifolia, so I imagine there may be a chance of it hybridising with either or both of the others.

acacian man! nen's gonna love that pic! Or so instinct tells me. Like your emphasis on intuition Nen.

Infinity is a Child at Play

more on the morphogenetic characteristics of trees with tryptamines, i've only ever had 1 real success with phyllodes and try to avoid using them if i can, but most of i've been gifted with was from inner branch bark that is of a deep red colour

nen888 (or anyone else) what do you think the consequences of releasing this list of 151 trees would be?

if you had (or do have?) it, would you do it?

p.s - if you read the recent threads by The Traveller you'll see uploading extraction photos here as attachments is a lot safer than using imageshack

what species do you mean you haven't had success with phyllodes?
..ok, if you mean Acacia obtusifolia subtropical variety growing on rhyolite, then it has almost no alkaloids in the phyllodes (0.07%) and about 0.15-0.3% in branch bark/trunk bark..

Place of Origin: China Taiwan southern
Category: evergreen tree
Taiwan acacia present in the world, a total of 1,200 species. Except Europe and Antarctica, the major states are distributed, which is the largest in Australia about 800 species, followed by Asia, about 150, only in our country Acacia a. China planted acacia are imported from abroad, belonging to three protected plants, mostly grown in the south of the Yangtze River, the broad distribution.
The acacia foliage detailed closely. As a round green clouds. Golden yellow flowers like clouds in the sunset glow. In fact, Taiwan acacia is not only a brilliant appearance. It's very hard wood texture. Often used to do all kinds of furniture, plywood and railway sleepers, can also be paper. In addition, Taiwan acacia bark extract tannin extract. Leaves do feed. The roots for dye, is a rare fine species of economic and ecological benefits in one.
Acacia - historical legend
According to legend, as the Warring States Period Song Kangwang Scheeren Han Ping and his wife Ho metaplasia. According to Jenkin Bao "Immortals" Juan Shiyi contained the Song Kangwang Scheeren Korea with wife of Ho and beautiful Kangwang wins and prisoners with. Died with suicide He cast the testament is willing to the bones give with buried. The wrath of the king listen and Azeri buried the two graves sea. The the end Johnson Catalpa pike phase near two mass graves on the root cross in the lower limbs wrong on. Yuanyang there are male and female each one often roost tree cross neck lament. Song sorrow then No. Wood said, "Taiwan acacia. After a symbol of faithful love.
Acacia - distribution
Origin China Taiwan and throughout the island plains, hilly low mountain region, the Philippines has distributed. Tropical and subtropical regions of Guangdong, Hainan, Guangxi, Fujian, Yunnan and Jiangxi provinces (autonomous regions) are cultivated. Horizontal distribution and growth of normal in the south of latitude 25 ° -26 °; vertical distribution due to latitude, can be planted in the tropical regions of Hainan to 800 meters above sea level, while the higher latitudes generally at an altitude of 200-300 meters below the lowland planting.

Burmese-Myanmar transcript names: {rha:}
Hindi: 
• रवैर and {hkeikr} -- Nagathein in Hindi-Devanagari and Burmese-Myanmar; 
Sanskrit: 
• {hka.dir} -- Nagathein in Hindi-Myanmar
UKT: Note that the name in Hindi-Devanagari given in leader begins with the Devanagari-akshara र  whose equivalent in Myanmar is {ra.}.

• A moderate-sized tree with dark brown bark peeling off in long strips; stipular spines short, recurved, brown, glossy.
Part used and uses:
• Root, bark, leaf, flower, fruit -- Leprosy. Bark -- Leucoderma; Fistula in ano; Antidiarrhoea; Cough. Leaf -- Polyuria. Flower -- Metrorrhagia. Resin -- Tooth applicant for strong teeth; Haemostasis; Diarrhoea; Bowel antiseptic; Chronic sores; Gonorrhoea; Dry cough; Apthus ulcer; Ottorrhoea; Inflammations in oral cavity; Haemorrhoids.
• Heart wood. Astringent -- UHM
Constituents:
• 1. 25% Phlobatannin called Catechu-tannic acid. (1) -- UHM

Burmese-Myanmar transcript names: 
  {king-pwun:hkyiñ} - {king-pwun:} -  -
Hindi :
• {yhi.ka-ka-I} -- Nagathein in Hindi-Myanmar
Sanskrit :
UKT: Nagathein could have spelled the Hindi name {rhi-ka-ka-I} (which Burmese-Myanmar literates would read "shi-ka-ka-i", in which case, we could safely say that the plant is the same as mentioned by http://labshelf.com/shikakai-fruit.html : " "shikakai" (or Shikai) which literally translates as 'fruit for the hair' " .
English common name used in Myanmar :

• Acacia concinna is a small shrub-like tree which grows in the warm, dry plains of central India. For centuries the people who have had access to this tree have used its pod-like fruit to clean their hair. They collect, dry and grind this pod into a powder which is considered a superior cleanser for "lustrous long hair" and has been reported as "promoting hair growth and preventing dandruff". Because of these benefits, this powder was named "shikakai" which literally translates as "fruit for the hair" . http://labshelf.com/shikakai-fr
Part used and uses :
• Leaf -- Ascites; Hepatitis; Unproductive cough; Leprosy; Haemorrhoids; Tumours; Indigestion; Biliousness; Expectorant; Good for heart. Fruit -- Abortifacient; Cathartic; Antidote for snake venom; As hair shampoo for antiseptic  and antidandruff; Pain due to cystitis. Seed -- Emetic; Diuretic; Cathartic. -- KS-TMN
• Bark, leaves, pods -- www.pioneerherbs.com/acacia_concinna.htm
Ethnobotany (Worldwide use):
• Today this fruit is grown commercially in large quantities in India and the Far East. As a result, shikakai powder is readily available and continues to be commonly used as a preferred shampoo. The dried, powdered fruit is sold in attractive packages that show women with long, beautiful, shiny hair. Many popular brands are sold throughout India.
   Typically, shikakai is mixed with water to make a paste which is worked through the hair. It lathers moderately and cleans hair beautifully. It has a natural low pH, is extremely mild, and doesn't strip hair of natural oils. Usually no rinse or conditioner is used since shikakai also acts as a detangler. This ancient product is probably the world's original pH balanced shampoo.
   ShiKai imports this shikakai powder from India and uses it as the primary cleansing and sudsing agent in ShiKai Shampoos.  Instead of using it in its raw powdered state however, Shikai makes an extract which preserves the beneficial properties and converts shikakai powder into a water-soluble form. This "shiKai" extract, as they've named it, is used in place of soaps and harsh detergents. The resulting shampoos are truly different -- they are gentle, mild, naturally low pH, and are genuine alternatives to all other shampoos found today. http://labshelf.com/shikakai-fruit.html
• An infusion of the leaves is used in malarial fever. A decoction of the pods relieves biliousness and acts as a purgative. It is used to remove dandruff. An ointment, prepared from the ground pods, is good for skin diseases. The pods, known as Shikai or Shikakai, are extensively used as an detergent, and the dry ones are powdered and perfumed, and sold in the market as soapnut powder. The pods are reported to be used in north Bengal for poisoning fish. [Nathawat and Deshpande, loc. Cit.;Nadkarni, I, 16; Bhatnagar et al, J Res Indian Med, 1973, 8(2), 67]. Contraindication N.A. Formulation and dosages: N.A. www.pioneerherbs.com/acacia_concinna.htm
Constituents :
• The bark contains saponin, which on hydrolysis yields lupeol, (-spinasterol and acacic acid lactone. The sugars identified are glucose, arabinose and rhamnose. It also contains hexacosanol and (- spinasterone. The saponin of bark shows spermicidal activity against human semen (Banerji and Nigam, J Indian chem Soc., 1980, 57, 1043; Banerji et al, Indian Drugs, 1979 - 80, 17,6). The tender leaves, which are acidic, are used in chutneys. The leaves contain oxalic, tartaric, citric, succinic and ascorbic acids. They also contain two alkaloids calyctomine (C12H17O3N, m p 138-40o) and nicotine, besides rutin, and an enzyme tartaric racimase. A new triterpenoid saponin (C36H48O5, m p 295o) having the basic skeleton of oleanolic acid. Other constituents present in the leaves are tannins, amino acids and proteins (Gupta & Nigam, Planta med, 1970-71,19,55). -- www.pioneerherbs.com/acacia_concinna.htm

Burmese-Myanmar transcript names: 
•  {nan:loan°:-kraing}
   -- TravPo-M-Dict 171
 {nan:loan°:-kraing} - n. vachellia, kind of fragrant flower, Acacia farmesiana. 
English common name used in Myanmar:

• Cassie flowers; Sponge tree; Stinking acacia.
Parts used and uses:• Bark -- Metrorrhagia; Pruritis; Bronchitis; Diarrhoea; Dysentery; For the treatment of tooth-ache, toothdecay and pyorrhoea; As an antidote for poisons; Heals carbuncles. Gum -- Aphrodisiac; Gives energy. -- KS-TMN

Burmese-Myanmar transcript names: 
  {hta.nhaung:}  
-- TravPo-M-Dict 141
 {hta.nhaung:} -- n. kind of thorny tree with whitish bark growing in dry regions, Acacia leucaphloea.
-- 
English common name used in Myanmar:
•  White barked Acacia, White Babool 
•  "White Babul"
• UHM : NL.
• Grows wild, common in dry zone plains --
Parts used and uses:
• Bark: Antiseptic; Antipyretic; Oedema; Cough; Emesis; To allay thirst; Burning sensations; Metrorrhagia; Mental disorders; Leprosy. Wood of fresh roots: Rabies -- KS-TMN
Constituents: unknown