I bought the GVG and it is by far my favorite way to enjoy spice. You won't even think your getting a good hit but when you finally exhale WOW. It is a great investment if your goal is to travel through hyperspace.

Never tried the GVG but I owned a VG that I bought for just regular vaping. I then, without ever have reading about it, started to experiment using it with spice. Ending up working so well I wasn't sure why anyone would try all the other bullshit ways. Found out it was a popular way after that, and now I want to try the gvg

I'm concerned with this vaporgenie. I looked up how this apparatus works and it seems like you're inhaling a lot of butane when you vape.

If you've got a good torch, the butane is burned up/off with the flame.

Butane has a pretty noticeable smell and flavor. I can't recall ever smelling or tasting butane when using my vaporgenie with the Arc lighter that's been recommended all over.

Hi all,

I have spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to get the DMT vaporized with the GVG and I didn't get any more than low hallucinogen and body high effects. I have never been a smoker, and also never vaped anything, so there is a problem with my tek for sure.
I think that the one of the problems is that the DMT melts through the six-eight screens I put, so I just bought today some stainless scrubber (didn't find copper), I have read that It can be worst, but I have cleaned and burned it, tried in the VGV to smoke with only the scrubber, and I didn't get any effect or bad taste, so I suppose It's good enought for now.
I will also try changa soon.
As this will be my last time that I test without going first to buy some herbs to practice first and do changa, I'm gonna post some pics so you can see if the stainless filter I have made is good enought, or I have to do it in another way.
As I don't feel like posting here the images in a directly way, that would make a bigger post making it uncomfortable I just let here the link to the album with eight photos of everything.
I suppose that I have to put just one screen down the scrubber filter no ?
http://imgur.com/a/9xGah
Thank you all, and hope that in this try I can go to the hyperspace, and not to the not much rewarding world of the body high and very low patternings and CEVs.

hello Dersu,

that ball looks to big to me, you want to aim for a thinner disc. Mine fits under the little lip in the bottom of the chamber and then i pop a screen on top.

somewhere on the site (prob in this thread) there is a pic of the copper disc that Gibran2 fashioned if you need some reference.

Make the disk smaller, flatter and try to melt your spice into it. Just heath it up a bit and put spice on it. It will nicely melt in. Then place your mesh disk back in and try vape it again.

Thanks smokerx and 3rdI. I Made another filter and worked good.
Another question, is the changa ok with the GVG or should I take out the ceramic filter and use it like a pipe ?

Thanks

changa works just fine in a GVG, just watch the heat as to much and it will ignite.

ok, so it's about a year since I was last on here or indeed had anything to do with dmt. I previously did one extraction which I was smoking through a lightbulb vaporizer. this is one reason why I didn't get a breakthrough, since stopping smoking weed about 8 years ago i've been a bit of a wuss when it comes to smoking. the other, main reason is that I was in an awful mental state after struggling with 6 years of ketamine and a shorter spell f heroin addiction. I'm very pleased say I feel like a different person now having been clean 6 months so I've got some beautiful white crystals forming in the freezer as I type and have purchased a gvg as a well done me treat. unfortunately I'm kicking myself as I didn't think things through and got a straight one. now it's arrived I'm thinking my gear is just going to sit in a little pile at the bottom of the chamber, with the hot air just blowing over the top, or possibly melting and running beneath the screen. Im sure I will be able to get my new baby smoking somehow but was wondering if anybody else uses the straight gvg and how they manage. (I've bought 2 volcano liquid pads aswell btw)
thanks in advance.

Congradulations on sobriety mate. Thats awesome. Maybe read this thread if your having troubles with the VG.

Thanks for for the link it's got some pretty useful info in, I've read through that and others but most of it seems geared to the gvg pipe (which makes sense since it would be any sensible persons choice) think I'll melt my gear onto the volcano pad before I put it in, see how that works.

I have been using my GVG without the top/screen on. It seems to work much better and faster. I just put the flame over the top on the opening, and the pipe is instantly filled up with smoke. Maybe my ceramic top is clogged? I used a butane torch and cleaned it, but it is still working better without the top. The smoke is harsher this way though, but not much more. I wonder what is going on here? Peace.

whats going on is that your not using your GVG in the correct manner .

if you take out the filter you may as well use a normal pipe, the whole point of the GVG is the temperature regulation from the ceramic sponge. If the vapour is harsher then your overheating the DMT and burning it. Properly vaped DMT is smoooooooth.

but if it works for you then crack on.

One additional note: If over-heating is a problem, just raise the torch higher above the ceramic filter. No need to point it toward the glass.

The vapor is definitely NOT clear. Herbal vapor OR DMT vapor.

You hit it right and you will get very visible. white milky clouds of delicious vapor.

Where did you get that all this vapor is totally invisible?

The whole point of the GVG is that you can easily vaporize AND see the volume of vapor that you are inhaling. This is the benefit between the GVG and regular VG series.

Sounds to me like you aren't getting the flame down in there enough. That ceramic filter will turn orange/red with heat really quick if you apply direct heat for even a couple seconds with a torch lighter

Stating the obvious, inhaling smoke or vapor is a function of breath intake and of heat application. I have consistent success with maintaining a constant and steady inhale and varying only the height of the lighter. Closer when warming up the heating element of the gvg and then backing away as it glows and adjusting for vaporization as it occurs. They key is the steady inhale, from deep in the chest. Billowing clouds.

I have been reading this thread for too long now,

exactly. If you have the top peice on the GVG then i don't see how you would get "SMOKE" rather than "VAPOR" with any type of lighting device. That is the beauty of the GVG. The flame never touches the dmt so its very difficult to burn.

Changa/herbs are a different story and you just need a couple practice hits to figure out the amount of heat needed to keep the herb from burning. But the vapor is still very visible in the pipe, even with herbs.

I have been using my GVG without the top on, it works way faster and harder to me. Maybe mine is clogged even though I used a propane torch to clean the ceramic. The smoke is a bit harsher though, but not too much.