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#1 Posted : 11/17/2012 5:57:38 AM

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planning on taking 200mg of caapi extract i extracted myself mixed with lemon juice and 20 min later mixing 70mg dmt in lemon juice. i weigh 235 ibs, is this dosage enough, wanted to test the waters sorta speak, have done ayahuasca a few times and dmt countless times. how long does the effects start to hit you, i have read alot of the forums on dosage but just wanna sorta verify it. thanx alot of rthe help
 

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#2 Posted : 11/17/2012 6:19:44 AM

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For your size that seems like a reasonable starting dose.

Are you familiar with harmalas or is this your first time taking them as well?

If this is your first time taking harmalas orally, I'd really suggest working with them by themselves to begin with to find your sweet spot and kind of get your harmala legs as I believe dreamer042 put it. It's nice to be able to differentiate what you're feeling so you can have better control of the dosage.

Once you find your harmala sweet spot, you'll know it. If you're already there, this is a moot point...

Either way, after you take the harmalas, wait at least 15 minutes and then take the dmt. By that time you should already be feeling the harmala effects and you'll start feeling your perception distort further as the dmt starts to take effect in another 15 minutes.

Pharma can be a really hit or miss ordeal for a lot of people so if you don't quite get there, don't beat yourself up or sweat it. Just smoke some spice or changa to dial into where you want to be.

There is a lot of extra info in the FAQ and Pharma section of the forum but this good start for ya.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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#3 Posted : 11/17/2012 12:47:41 PM

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anabolic_hippie wrote:
planning on taking 200mg of caapi extract i extracted myself mixed with lemon juice and 20 min later mixing 70mg dmt in lemon juice. i weigh 235 ibs, is this dosage enough, wanted to test the waters sorta speak, have done ayahuasca a few times and dmt countless times. how long does the effects start to hit you, i have read alot of the forums on dosage but just wanna sorta verify it. thanx alot of rthe help


Unfortunately, weight doesn't seem to be a reliable factor to judge pharma doses on. People's sensitivity to pharma varies more greatly than probably any other route of administration, and it's not quite clear why. You could have someone really light who needs 200mg or you could have someone heavy where 80mg would blow them away. There are many factors at play including metabolism, what was eaten recently, how long ago, and then all the "unknowns". The dosages you've selected however are a good place to start for many though. It's always safe to dose a little lower on the DMT because if you don't get as far as you'd like, you can always just smoke/vape a little extra DMT when you'd like to really kick things off to the next level, but with a word of caution because it can get intense Shocked
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