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#1 Posted : 11/17/2012 2:02:26 AM

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Anyone felt like they were watching their life from a movie projector after snorting Ketamine? It was a crazy experience- each time needing more and having a foggy distant out of body phenomena. I don't know if I could compare it to other psychedelics but I definitely was hallucinating.
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#2 Posted : 11/17/2012 2:24:16 AM

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#3 Posted : 11/17/2012 2:25:39 AM

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Did I post something wrong?
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#4 Posted : 11/17/2012 2:39:42 AM

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Not really wrong, just lacking information.

Your post basically reads to me "I got high on ketamine" and while that's all well and good, what kind of dosage did you take over what period of time? What did you gain or learn from the experience? How did you integrate and grow from it? Did you notice any health benefits of detriments from taking it? Would you recommend it to others, why or why not? What relevance does your experience have for this forum and why are you sharing it with us?

And so on and so forth, you get the idea.

Thanks! Smile
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BabyFat
#5 Posted : 11/17/2012 2:47:17 AM

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Ah more detail- If I can remember, it was a long time ago and didn't ever think I would be free to talk about it. Big grin

I snorted a very small line about an inch the first time- I did it probably 15 times over the course of a year or so. Each dose I needed more until the line was about 6 inches. I learned that drugs could disconnect me from reality in a different way than I was used to. I gained the experience of just being able to try something that was at that time for me- very different from reality. I would probably recommend it - it wasn't my favorite drug but I am glad to have had the experience and it wasn't too intense for me. I shared this experience to help others in this community learn about the different things I have done to bring me to another level.

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#6 Posted : 11/17/2012 3:09:10 AM

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I can't say I've experienced that, but similar things are definitely common. The hallucinations from K are just so trippy rather than psychedelic IMO. It's like a whacky world, & I do enjoy it a lot.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/17/2012 4:08:54 AM

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From my brief experience with it in the past I felt it sort made your view sit farther back, and a bit up from where you would normally see from. Almost as if you had a little floating camera above your head instead of eyes, and the more you take the bigger and slower the room gets. I find at low doses it almost seemed to make myself feel faster rather than everything slowing... But once you take enough you can barely move! (or not at all, hence a k hole)

As fun as it is be aware it causes bladder issues including urniating blood if you take it a lot, it is certainly not without harm.

From an observer's point of view I tend to see people on K like I'm watching an episode of robot chicken or something... The stiff, robotic movements always get to me! Hahah.

I assume you bring this up for mere discussion, which I don't necessarily see as wrong, especially since us new members don't have a lounge other than this on here. I see nothing wrong with discussing the effects and seeing if your results were similar to others, which is all you did. Smile. I'm still considered a newb here too however so take that with a grain of salt Razz I understand where dream is coming from, but IMO you did ask to compare notes which is more than just "I got high".
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#8 Posted : 11/17/2012 4:11:40 AM

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The best way I can describe the first time ...I suddenly felt like I had slammed a 6 pack of beer in about 5 seconds. It wore off fast but my surroundings were really out of the ordinary, almost like a dream...or old school film grain movie. I felt like I was looking into my life from an outside perspective. It was choppy like I was looking at what I was doing on a film reel or a negative strip. It's hard to explain but I felt like time had stood still for a long time, really not much time had gone by at all. Other than time feeling like it had lapsed, I felt fine shortly after doing it.
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#9 Posted : 11/17/2012 7:23:15 PM

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Babyfat- for the record, ketamine is sort of frowned upon here because, of all the popular psychedelics and disassociatives, it has some of the worst issues with dependencies and toxicity. That said, I'd like to share my experiences with it.

I've got considerable experience with LSD and shrooms, and had tried small bumps of K a few times. I'd never been impressed at all. But a friend of mine who is a true psychonaut encouraged me to try some larger doses. So under his guidance, over the course of a week, I ramped up gradually to about 3/4g, insufflated. At this dose you will not be able to move for the duration of the peak, which can last around an hour. Couldn't even pick up my bowl of weed, and speech was quite slurred. But the effects at this dosage can be profoundly psychedelic, equivalent to around 5-700ug of LSD, although different in many ways.

Firstly, it doesn't necessarily flood your inner eye with visual content like DMT or acid can, so we made a point of having great trippy videos on the whole time. This can be an incredible combination. Without the visuals it's easy to just end up feeling really drunk. Because its a tranquilizer, you can have this incredible peak without any of the jittery anxiety that LSD can generate. So during this friend's visit I had a handful of lovely peak psychedelic trips.

But there is a dark side: because of the ease of going back in without anxiety, the experience can be very seductive. I found myself having crackhead-style cravings all week in anticipation, which made me very uncomfortable. My wife even pointed out that I was behaving differently, not myself. That served as a warning- I like to keep a healthy balance in life- so after my friend left I never did K again.

It's known to be habit forming, and as it turns out this same friend (along with another longtime friend and fellow psychonaut) has really lost control. He's taking 2g per night, intramuscular, and seems to have forgotten about his Earthside concerns. So he's losing friends, losing opportunities, barely has a pot to piss in and is doing profound long term damage to his health. And in exchange for what? I've always felt that tripping is only worth a damn if you can integrate your experience in order to live a better life in the long periods between trips. Otherwise you are just escaping, which might as well be happening with alcohol or heroin. K is a seductress, warm and pleasant and full of empty promise.

I urge you to stay away... Maybe try a good 3G dose of shrooms next. They have way more to offer, and won't drag you down.
 
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#10 Posted : 11/18/2012 7:23:57 AM

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Guyomech wrote:

It's known to be habit forming, and as it turns out this same friend (along with another longtime friend and fellow psychonaut) has really lost control. He's taking 2g per night, intramuscular, and seems to have forgotten about his Earthside concerns. So he's losing friends, losing opportunities, barely has a pot to piss in and is doing profound long term damage to his health. And in exchange for what? I've always felt that tripping is only worth a damn if you can integrate your experience in order to live a better life in the long periods between trips.


No experience with K myself, but words of wisdom, regardless of substance.
 
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#11 Posted : 11/18/2012 3:43:02 PM

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K is never something I've tried or wanted to try, even from description of trips and seeing so many people through university all sat curled up in a ball in the corner. It just doesn't look good. I couldn't understand how you could enjoy the trip whilest not being able to move in that way. Also seeing people going into huge K holes, it's worse than dealing with a seriously drunk person, some of the darker sides of K's bad trip's seem horrid too. Although I've heard that Ketamine can be very much up there in power with DMT.

Sniffing anything now just seem's like a bad idea aswell, at least with DMT I know for a fact what it's going to be, whether making it myself (which I've yet to do) or getting it from someone else, I know that person is going to make it properly, is trust worthy etc.

Ketamines availability is quite scary, it's an incredibly potent drug, seeing it all over the streets, parties, clubs, at university was just 0.o mind melting..
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#12 Posted : 11/18/2012 5:29:31 PM

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Gotta throw in my 2 cents on K.

Everything Guyomech wrote was accurate and wise. K is quite the seductress and for someone who enjoys tripping it can become the ultimate escape. In the K-Hole there is no earthside emotions, bodily sensations, or thoughts. You are completely immersed in another world. One of the wilder things about K is that I have often returned to the exact same K-Hole in a later trip to continue where I left off.

This was one of the strangest and most seductive qualities of the substance I had worlds that were more interesting and immersive than earth and that I could return to occasionally by chance with just a quick line up the nose. Pleasure trips got more intense and ecstatic everytime I returned yet, bad holes were more demonic and immersive with each return, also. I actually had a K-hole where I worked at the Sushi bar I worked at in real life for what seemed, thousands of eons. Not fun by any means.

K takes you completely out of your body sometimes even on less than catatonic K-hole dose one will have no bodily sensations. This makes one yearn for the carefree bodiless sate of K more and more.

I was using it everyday, all day, for 3 months and it really put me in a bad place. Forgot all earthside concerns. Quit my job spent most of the day locked in my room catatonic or wandering around my neighborhood completely inebriated. Would be rolling around in the dirt in front of my neighbors house with a nose covered in powder, deep in a K-hole. The only reason my roommates and neighbors never took me to the hospital was because I would usually come out of the catatonic K-holes an hour after entering, rather clear headed, which was when they were about ready to call the EMT's.

My memory was shot, whenever I took LSD or mushrooms during this period, the whole trip became a warning of my impending horrible death from K abuse. I even ended up shooting it intramuscularly a few times near the end. These trips were right up there with DMT in intensity and REALLY made me rethink my actions and led to me coming off the K and returning to occasional DMT use which was instrumental in my healing.

Its been almost a year since that addiction and my mind feels almost 100% but I still have to pee a little more often than I used to and whenever using an intoxicant of any kind (alcohol, kava, tea, etc) my kidneys begin to ache. I still hope I don't end up with kidney stones from that short period of abuse.

K can definitely teach you some things and is quite a psychonaut's delight with it repeatable fully immersive trips. But the damage it does to internal organs, the bladder, and the mind coupled with its VERY addictive nature makes it a hard beast to tame. If you partake do SO very carefully and VERY occasionally.

The famous psychonaut author, D.M. Turner used K every 2 weeks, believing this spacing out of use wouldn't allow addiction to take hold. When he tried to quit after being on this schedule for 2 years, he found it pretty much impossible and ended up dead in his bathtub on K. Very occasional use is necessary for this one.
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BabyFat
#13 Posted : 11/19/2012 12:25:09 AM

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Guyomech wrote:

I urge you to stay away... Maybe try a good 3G dose of shrooms next. They have way more to offer, and won't drag you down.


Thanks for the info. I don't plan on doing K again- I am glad to have had the experience but it wasn't something I want to get into again. I will probably take your advice about the shrooms Thumbs up
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#14 Posted : 11/24/2012 8:00:56 AM

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I was given a large line of K at a party once, perhaps <250mg and ended up falling over a few minutes later into a K hole, literally! my next memory was of feeling all this discomfort and tension in my body, with a top perspective looking down on a metal cog that was part of larger machine, I tried to fight this unpleasant sensation and take control with every part of my soul and eventually I could fight no more and gave into the experience, I let whatever was to be, happen. as soon as I did that the body discomfort left and my top perspective started spiralling backwards showing that yes I was a cog that was part of a larger mechanism that was also a cog that was part of an even larger mechanism and so on.. My eyes opened and I was back in my body, relaxed and truly at one.

To me this was one of my most profound experiences of my life, it was like me facing the unknown, at that point I wasn't sure if the next step was me giving in to death. My trust in the experience then rewarded me with one of the most beautiful fractals I have ever seen, and was part of! It was me as the whole and also me expressing myself as a part of the whole.


I rarely do K perhaps once every year or so, if at all. I have a healthy respect for it and its power.

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#15 Posted : 11/28/2012 4:35:30 AM

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I was given a large line of K at a party once, perhaps <250mg and ended up falling over a few minutes later into a K hole, literally! my next memory was of feeling all this discomfort and tension in my body, with a top perspective looking down on a metal cog that was part of larger machine, I tried to fight this unpleasant sensation and take control with every part of my soul and eventually I could fight no more and gave into the experience, I let whatever was to be, happen. as soon as I did that the body discomfort left and my top perspective started spiralling backwards showing that yes I was a cog that was part of a larger mechanism that was also a cog that was part of an even larger mechanism and so on.. My eyes opened and I was back in my body, relaxed and truly at one.

To me this was one of my most profound experiences of my life, it was like me facing the unknown, at that point I wasn't sure if the next step was me giving in to death. My trust in the experience then rewarded me with one of the most beautiful fractals I have ever seen, and was part of! It was me as the whole and also me expressing myself as a part of the whole.


I rarely do K perhaps once every year or so, if at all. I have a healthy respect for it and its power.



Glad to hear you have a healthy respect for it, however your experience sounds less than admirable.
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