This is the most important thing. Once you give up, it's over.

Nicotine is a horrible addiction - not just the long term effects, but yes, the meat hooks. This is war man! War consists of battles. Some battles are won. Some battles are lost. Some battles are a tie and everyone goes home and talks BS.

Given how very hard nicotine is to quit I really thing this thread is relevant even though it overtly focuses on opiates https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=25676

Don't be too hard on yourself, keep trying, yes, do try other methods to ease off - the idea of patch or gum might be better than e-cig - at least get rid of that silly habit that you know your hand and mouth love.

There's two components to the addiction and both are big with nicotine. Physical - it takes awhile to fully detox. Psychological - this is the real series of long term battles.


Yes, from those I've spoken to who have quit long term it does get much much easier with time.

I would recommend meditation, as well as actively working on integrating the powerful trip that started this.

You CAN do this. One of your enemies is big tobacco. Don't let them continue to have you as their long term prisoner.

Wishing you the best and knowing you can do this.

I quit for 6 years and then started smoking again last july. And now I just can't stop again That really sucks.
a year ago I couldn't see myself ever smoking again. I never wanted a cigarette. But then some shit happens and things change and......

But I know I wont last for long. DMT is also telling me to quit again. I won't give up trying to quit. I'll succeed soon. Cigarettes are shit. I can feel how they're affecting my health already. After just smoking for 4 months.

DMT has never told me not to smoke but Iboga (Ibogaine) sure as hell did!

In a LONG vision outlining my life one part of it showed factory smoke stacks, char and burning factories. Then it showed me and my best buddy mockingly in in some creepy caricature form of us driving down the road in his truck laughing and smoking as dark black billowing smoke was coming out of our mouths and out his window. It showed what it was doing to my body and it made me feel like a real freaking IDIOT! Most of Ibogaine journey was very mocking to me it wasn't a pleasant teacher as it was dissecting me.

... I am still and idiot as I still smoke.

I am glad some of you have already stopped.

I've recently stopped again. I've smoked twice in the last 6 weeks, both times I'd been drinking beer and sitting with people who smoke, but despite they relapses its going well and I'm starting to feel free from the slavery. This PDF really helped me this time http://curezone.com/uplo..._Way_To_Stop_Smoking.pdf

I'd read it when craving and it would helo also when craving I would eat fruit or do exercise that still helps, but the cravings are less and less.

That combined with weed has really helped, once I smoke weed I'm pretty wasted and a cigarette is the last thing on my mind. I don't normally smoke weed regularly. Hanging out with non smokers also makes it a lot easier. I also stopped after Iboga then started again a month later as I was socialising with smokers, terrible addiction.

dont give up! its a very tough battle most often lost than won, but almost anything worth doing in life is not easy.i gave up cigs a year ago and feel so much better now in so many ways. I did the ecig thing and it helped tons, slowly tamper off the nicotine levels till using non nicotine liquid than i just gave it up. I think tobacco is a sacred thing one of the most important power plants but like all plants must be respected and used in moderation, so an occasional mapacho smoke for ritual is nice. I was told once by a shaman that all power plants have spirits than can either protect/heal you or cause u harm, so important not to abuse. Really hope you make it through, stay strong bro wish the best




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Just wanted to update this thread:

I haven't successfully quit smoking ciggs.

Quitting has been on my mind more than ever.

And again I haven't given up. Tomorrow starts a new day and a new chance to succeed.

Any and all support is greatly appreciated.


Warm hug,
Wearepeople

This is the way I quit. I just stop smoking then I...

(1) Firstly tell myself over and over I do not smoke anymore, why would I? ... if I say I am trying to quit, I am saying I am still a smoker trying to quit, when I say I DO NOT SMOKE! I am not a smoker any more, im tricking my brain.

(2)Exercise my but off, usually swimming a mile a day does it, so I am exhausted and then I comment to myself on how much easier it will as i get father away from my last cig and time goes by, exercising also gives you lots of nice endorphins and reduces the craving considerably.

(3)have lots of sweets available to give your fingers something to do (putting things into your mouth) I also eat whatever I Want, I Treat myself and literally gorge if I want to, anything other than smoking.

(4) Be mindful of how long nicotine addiction actually lasts, its about 4-7 days, the rest is mental, the cravings get worst at about day 3 then subside afterwards.

You can do it but it all starts with telling yourself and fully believing that you do not smoke! the rest is just dealing with cravings.

When you believe your are a none smoker, you have already quit, the rest is just a process.

hope this helps

I won the war with that one. 2 packs a day and smoked for 6 years. I quit cold turkey and never looked back since then lol actually I DID relapse with a black and mild a couple months ago but thats nothing crazy . But its been a year and 7 months almost since my last cigarette. I feel so much better for it, mentally, physically. And to think Ive saved thousands of dollars makes me feel better. You just have to look at ALL the benefits that youre going to reap and just keep that stuck in your head until your brain is naturally reprogrammed to live without them. Youll find other things to do to make the stresses go away. We always do. If you really want to quit you gotta just do it.

Nicotine is not that bad. Doctors say it's on par with caffeine.

I smoked for 8+ years; every single day for all of my teen years. I tried one of those gas station e-cigs and thought it was awesome. In retrospect it was a piece of shit. It was nowhere near as satisfying as the second one I tried- the eGo twist 1000mAh. I quit the first day that I got it.

Fast forward a year down the line- I now use a vamo and a phoenix v3 rebuildable atomizer. I make my own e-juice, have a lab, over 60 different flavors, and I am completely self sufficient. I have not ordered from a vendor in months. If the zombie apocalypse comes, I will have enough hardware/nicotine/juice to last me at least a few years.

If you are interested in buying an e-cig, remember; you get what you pay for.

I really like how you phrased that!

Once when I was going through a very long period of trying to stop, I found that in one year, there were two definite occasions where my will power built up to such a sufficient degree that I could act upon it. If I ignored it, and I did ignore it many a time, I had to wait around 6 months for that feeling to return - the feeling that I am in complete control of kicking the habit. It was like catching the crest of a wave. I did it once and stopped and stayed stopped for 12months. If you relapse you can really only blame yourself. Its an annoyingly hard inner struggle. You may not find any of this helpful. Sorry. But I can say that I tried another method two-and-a-half years ago and I am sure I will never ever return to cigarettes again. On New Years Eve I took "enough" of really good, strong 6-APB and intentionally got so high that I felt my will power was as mouldable and as mercurial as I could possibly make it. After that night I have not been troubled by the thought of smoking or of anyone else smoking at all. This method, to me, made quitting super, super, easy. It may not be for you. But you asked for sharing and that's what I did. It's literally up to you whether you

logically quitting should be easier than smoking ,

as smoking requires one to bring a cigarette to their lips , light it and then puff on ......wheareas quitting requires them to just relax and do nothing

i smoke like 4 cigarettes everyday so its not really a big problem for me , yet once i used to smoke 10 times of that .........people its not that hard to keep the habit very low .....have some control over yourselves

So, Jin, why not employ the logic you're describing,and make your life easier by not having to go through the laborious chore of lighting those 4 cigarettes each day?

You know I jest with you.

Logic and addictions are uneasy bedfellows; rationalisation of ones use of whatever addictive chemical one chooses to indulge in might feel like logic, but when assessed closely theres alot of self-serving justifications rather than logic at work.

I stopped smoking cigarettes using a tapering dose of nicotine patch over approximately 3 weeks (preceded by a good MXE session to get my head in an appropriate place!) and have not consumed any tobacco at all since.Presently, I dont think I will smoke again and this pleases me.But I must admit, I do like a piece of nicotine gum from time to time as I do enjoy the nicotine hit.It does take some mental work to become content with the slower delivery compared to a cigarette ,and mint flavour can become acceptable with coffee given a little practise.

As a method of reducing harm whilst still enjoying nicotine its a reasonable compromise.

ah well ............i guess my logic is now up in the air with the smoke