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remediosvaro
#1 Posted : 11/14/2012 8:43:14 PM

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kanna or caapi
mullein
wormwood
yopo extract
blue lotus 10x extract


i want to have something that i can smoke, then walk around a bit and feel happy, and also be able to enjoy just sitting at home... somewhat like cannabis. but i cant get cannabis...

so i need to know. what should i put, kanna or caapi? does caapi have enjoyable effects by itself? do they suit the effects i want? what about kanna, does kanna cause euphoric effects? or mind expanding?
what should i choose, kanna or caapi? would caapi interact with the rest of the mix? is blue lotus noticeably psychoactive? is a mild amount of bufo enjoyable? does wormwood work? what would be the effects of this mix?

i know i have lots of questions, but the nexus has lots of answers and i can really use your help.

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#2 Posted : 11/14/2012 8:55:33 PM

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Hello remediosvaro,

Given what you are looking for, if I were you I would get the caapi but in leaf form, some mullein and the blue lotus. I'd also say passionflower, but it's not on your list. As well as an herb grinder - manual one - like a pot grinder.

Grind all leaves up into even consistency. Remove any stems or "cheap" pieces, then make a mix with something like 50% caapi, 30% blue lotus and 20% mullein. Don't mess around with bowls. Roll a nice joint or two.

I look forward to reading other replies and wish you luck in your hunt/search. Please keep us posted.
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#3 Posted : 11/15/2012 1:28:36 AM

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Have you heard of leonitis leonurus?

I have zero experience with it but I've read some interesting experiences:
Erowid Leon Vaults

Especially this one:
7g Leon Tea


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#4 Posted : 11/15/2012 2:42:48 AM

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wearepeople wrote:
I have zero experience with it

it is really nothing similar to cannabis as far as the experience goes, the duration is short, and tolerance builds quick.

plus the taste is hideous (worse than ayahuasca by far)

i made an extract (acidified water, filtered heavily and evapped) which came out pretty potent and the taste is more pleasant, but it still leaves a nasty taste in your mouth after your done smoking.

i still have almost all the extract i made and that was before i ever tried DMT.


i don't really recommend this plant, though some seem to enjoy it.
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remediosvaro
#5 Posted : 11/15/2012 8:10:50 AM

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i used to be very interested in wild dagga, no matter how much earwax tasting tea i had, or how much i smoked the effects seemed like placebos. same goes for wild lettuce, scullcap, and some others. in my opinion, most people on erowid who claim effects, all claim the same mild relaxed feeling. not one who seemed sure that they felt it
 
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#6 Posted : 11/15/2012 8:11:43 AM

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i used to be very interested in wild dagga, no matter how much earwax tasting tea i had, or how much i smoked the effects seemed like placebos. same goes for wild lettuce, scullcap, and some others. in my opinion, most people on erowid who claim effects, all claim the same mild relaxed feeling. not one who seemed sure that they felt it
 
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#7 Posted : 11/15/2012 8:39:18 AM

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I haven't tried it yet but found an interesting tek on Erowid for making an extract/hash type thing from Wormwood that sounds worthwhile. I've got a bunch of the stuff but smoking straight leaf doesn't do anything (at least not with a reasonable amount.)
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