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#261 Posted : 11/10/2012 10:09:39 PM
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SO I started with 100 grams of powdered mimosa, 2000 ml of water, 200 grams of lye and 100 ml of naphtha. I followed nomans STB to a tee when starting. Once I extracted the naphtha layer I evaporated it for a few hours then did freeze precipitation overnight. when I checked the next day there was white goo and yellowish naphtha.
So I sat it out again to evap more naphtha to get the dmt and I was left with a pan of with a paper thin oil layer and no dried dmt. does anyone have any suggestions that has had the same problem??
 

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#262 Posted : 11/10/2012 10:13:25 PM

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its common to have an oil when you evap your nps.

odds are your solvent wasnt saturated enough for the brief drop in temperature (which may have been too little) for anything more than just a bit to precipitate.

as long as your product is free of solvent, it should be functional. just put it on some herb before use
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#263 Posted : 11/12/2012 12:37:53 AM

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Simple question this time, can I do a acacia confusa extraction in the exact same way as a mimosa extraction...100 grams lye in 600-700 ml water, Bestine or naptha, freeze precipitation, etc. This answer seems more hard to find than one would think.
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#264 Posted : 11/12/2012 12:46:23 AM

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yeah but you might end up with something that is more oily and harder to crystallize due to the nmt content. It still should be perfectly active Smile
 
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#265 Posted : 11/12/2012 2:41:41 AM

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Simple washing should clean it up a lot though right?
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#266 Posted : 11/12/2012 11:40:06 PM
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hello this is going to be about my third extraction and i was hoping for a few pointers.

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i have about 60 grams of MHRB
using lextek
60g of MHRB is 3% of the materials used in the lextek in the nexus (2kg)
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Lextek

a few questions:
when i'm performing the acid cook, what is a good amount of water and vinegar to use?
is this the best tek for the amount of MHRB i am using?

thanks for all your help!
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#267 Posted : 11/13/2012 2:56:03 AM

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mevo wrote:
when i'm performing the acid cook, what is a good amount of water and vinegar to use?

You can just scale the amounts down. I personally use a variation on the Marsofold Tek, and use 3 x cooks of 1.5L water / generous dash of vinegar per 100g bark. Seems like it would work out less for Lextek (I haven't done the maths). I would do 3 cooks of .75L water plus vinegar if I was doing your extraction. If you want to stick to the tek though, just scale down the amounts to find out what you need.

mevo wrote:
is this the best tek for the amount of MHRB i am using?

I've never done Lextek so I couldn't answer that one I'm afraid.
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#268 Posted : 11/13/2012 4:02:14 AM
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d*l*b wrote:
mevo wrote:
when i'm performing the acid cook, what is a good amount of water and vinegar to use?

You can just scale the amounts down. I personally use a variation on the Marsofold Tek, and use 3 x cooks of 1.5L water / generous dash of vinegar per 100g bark. Seems like it would work out less for Lextek (I haven't done the maths). I would do 3 cooks of .75L water plus vinegar if I was doing your extraction. If you want to stick to the tek though, just scale down the amounts to find out what you need.

mevo wrote:
is this the best tek for the amount of MHRB i am using?

I've never done Lextek so I couldn't answer that one I'm afraid.


thanks for the response!

i did the math and scaled down it is roughly

60g mhrb
7.5 g lye
30ml vinegar
60ml naphtha
360 ml distilled water

from dmtnexus wiki lextek
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2 kilograms of DMT containing plant material (Acacia Obtusifolia bark will be used here)
250 grams of Sodium Hydroxide (Caustic Soda / Lye) – Bunnings / Safeway
1 Litre of white vinegar (dilute Acetic Acid) – Safeway
2 Litres of Shellite (non-polar solvent) – Bunnings
12 Litres of distilled water (polar solvent) – Bunnings


if someone could double check that would be great. or maybe suggest another tek i should be using?
thanks for all your help
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#269 Posted : 11/13/2012 8:11:22 PM
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hi im doing this tek - http://www.shroomery.org...flat.php/Number/11316065
but the naptha doesnt seem to be seperating after 2 hous nearly

any ideas?
 
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#270 Posted : 11/14/2012 12:46:34 AM
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OK I've got one - how can you see where the solvent layer ends, and the acid solution layer, or, more importantly, the drain cleaner layer begins?

Aren't they the same color?
 
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#271 Posted : 11/14/2012 1:23:53 AM
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Since good naphtha is essentially illegal in California, I'm interested in hearing what else works well for both defatting and pulling DMT when dealing with Acacia phyllodes, bark, etc.
 
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#272 Posted : 11/14/2012 1:59:57 AM

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rudder wrote:
OK I've got one - how can you see where the solvent layer ends, and the acid solution layer, or, more importantly, the drain cleaner layer begins?


The basic aqueous layer and the non polar layer are generally not the same colour (unless you meet the brown naphtha issue), however if you are working with smaller extractions and the non polar layer is small it can be hard to see where they meet each other.

If you move the liquid to a thinner vessel the layers will be taller and you will be able to differentiate them easier.

This is all dependent on you using a vessel made of transparent material, if you are looking from above you will have a hard time seeing the difference no matter what you do.
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#273 Posted : 11/14/2012 3:33:42 AM
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It's a shame you can't find good naphtha down there, SWIM just had a really successful extraction on Acacia confusa up here in canada. If you have access to heptane, that's a viable alternative. Xylene would also work if it's available. Keep in mind, freeze precipitation does not does not work with the previous two solvents. Also, they smell awful and are a real pain to deal with imo. I've also hear good things about d-limonene although I don't know much about it.
 
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#274 Posted : 11/14/2012 3:41:19 AM

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Zippo lighter fluid is illegal in cali? Or coleman's lantern fluid?

The Acacia Extraction Workspace>A/B lists a number of alternatives if you read the first few posts.
 
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#275 Posted : 11/14/2012 3:20:19 PM
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Hello everyone, just a quick question, I'm using Marsofold tek but I don't have a "one gallon GLASS wine jug".

Can I use a plastic jug (one gallon), or it's essential to use a GLASS one?
 
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#276 Posted : 11/14/2012 3:45:29 PM

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From Phillips, the company that manufactures HDPE plastic

Quote:
In addition to many individual chemicals (mentioned below), Phillips lists two major classes of chemicals that are not compatible with HDPE: aromatic hydrocarbons, and halogenated hydrocarbons. The basic aromatic hydrocarbon is benzene (a major component of gasoline); others are toluene (also called methylbenzene), and the three xylenes (o-, m-and p-xylene). Others include naphthalene (moth balls), and pdichlorobenzene (also moth balls). These aromatic hydrocarbons "permeate excessively and cause package deformation," says Phillips.


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#277 Posted : 11/15/2012 5:21:45 AM

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Hi has anyone used the BLAB tek? What are the benefits of going through with fumarate pulls and then converting the fumarates into freebase as opposed to acetate pulls and then to freebase?

Any answers would be greatly appreciated.
 
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#278 Posted : 11/15/2012 1:20:07 PM
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Having extracted from mimosa using a similar tek to nomans I have come across a problem I have never experienced before.

After I removed my jar from the freezer there were lots of nice crystals at the bottom however after pouring out the naptha and waiting for the residue to evaporate the crystal appear to have melted into a water like liquid. Usually when ever I have done this before the crystals just dry however this has thrown me off as its the same Tek I have used loads of times and never had an issue.

Anyone have any idea what has happened
 
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#279 Posted : 11/15/2012 1:56:01 PM

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mazzar wrote:
After I removed my jar from the freezer there were lots of nice crystals at the bottom however after pouring out the naptha and waiting for the residue to evaporate the crystal appear to have melted into a water like liquid. Usually when ever I have done this before the crystals just dry however this has thrown me off as its the same Tek I have used loads of times and never had an issue.

Anyone have any idea what has happened

• Is it warmer than usual in the environment you were working in?
• Did you ensure there was no visible solvent left in the container before evapping residual solvent?

FAQ: Melting/dissapearing crystals after freeze precipitation / Whats the best way to retrieve crystals after freezing?
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#280 Posted : 11/15/2012 3:47:02 PM

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Now im trying to find the best method for smoking DMT. Im getting a gram for me and some friends in a week or two and im really excited since it'll be my first time. I have done other psychs and i've been ready for it, just couldn't get ahold of itCrying or very sad Im currently broke due to me spending my money for my experience so I would like to ask you guys, what's the best way to smoke DMT so I dont waste it? I can't really buy anything so if you guys can avoid telling me to buy stuff to make something, that'll be greatVery happy
 
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