Hello nexus,

It's been a while since my last post, I have been taking a break from spice for the past month or so and I haven't really had time to do anything besides work eat and sleep. But overall my life is decent haha

I enjoy cannabis on a daily basis, but lately I've been trying to limit the amount that I use. I'm trying to get to the point where I am happy with only smoking 1-3 times a day. I've been doing pretty good too, I usually take a couple hits of weed in the morning before I leave for work (if I have enough time). I very rarely smoke on my lunch break but once in a while I take a puff or two from a chillum while I'm on the way to get some food. Then I go home and usually smoke 2-3 more times throughout the night before I go to bed.

Within the last year I have made butane honey oil (BHO) a few times and I was very pleased with it.
A couple of days ago I made 2 batches of some really nice BHO, it smokes great, tastes wonderful and it is very potent.

But I am still working on perfecting making and using BHO, so I have a few questions for the experienced members here...

I made 2 batches of oil very recently, I used the same kind of weed and the same kind of butane both times. The only things I did different between the 2 batches was I used 2 different materials as the filter at the end of my tube, I used a piece of an old t shirt the first time, and I used fabric from a pair of men's underwear the second time haha. The underwear fabric was much thinner and I could see light through it easily when I held it up. The only other thing I did different between the two extractions was I used more heat on the first batch to boil of the butane, the second time I just let it sit for a while to fully evaporate instead of changing out the warm water bath every couple mins.


Both batches yielded quite a bit and are very potent, however they look completely different.
The first batch (the one I used more heat to evap) is really dark and has no bubbles in it whatsoever. The second batch I made (didn't really use heat to evap) is much lighter colored and is very soft and sticky whereas the other darker stuff is very hard (when it's not warm)

I guess I'd just like to know if using heat to boil off the butane is as necessary as some people say it is?


A couple other things I've been thinking about:

Eating BHO,
A friend told me it would work if you take something like a bagel or English muffin or something, spread some butter on it and add some honey oil on top and put it in the toaster oven for a while.

Does this work?

Also, I have been pretty much only smoking oil the last couple days and almost no actual weed, one thing I have noticed is that my throat hurts pretty bad when eating/drinking after I smoke. It's really weird, the smoke isn't really harsh and I don't cough a lot, but it really hurts to swallow food after smoking oil. Anybody have any input here?

I wouldnt recommend neither eating the BHO neither smoking it too much.

BHO is made to be vaporized, not smoked. it is not hash.

If u want to eat thc, make some cannabutter and bake some cakes. If u want to smoke the oil, get a nice vaporiser.

Blesses.

Smoking oil speaks for itself.It leaves some waxen residue on respiratory organs,wether one vaporizes it or hot knives it.So its not recommended on a daily basis,lest one cannot but indulge.
I have no problems with smoking anything during the hot and dry season,but now,winter with cold moist air outside,i easily get sore throat from smoking.
The only remedy is hot drinks and a relaxing with the old chimney.

Thank you for the response,

I use the word "smoke" loosely. I'm not actually burning the oil with flame, I'm dabbing a little oil on a hot surface and sucking it up through a tube of some sort. If I had the money I'd go out and get a nice glass "nail" I really like using those I just don't have my own yet.

But thanks for your input, I understand what you mean, and I know that BHO can be used to make tincture, so why wouldn't heating it up with butter work?

I'm using hot knife method right now until I buy a nice glass piece.

Heat is always recommended when purging the butane, unless you sandwich it between parchment paper for several weeks to evaporate the 'tane. I personally use an electric pancake griddle on the absolute lowest setting (below warm approximately 130-140 F) until the BHO stops forming bubbles. Heat will make it come out a bit darker typically.

The biggest factor I've noticed with BHO is moisture. Whether its how dry your trim is, or how warm the pyrex is before you start blasting butane. There's a ton of condensation that will make it's way into your wax making it soft and opaque. It's still stony but it can be a pain to work with.

I have noticed great enhancement of smoke by letting BHO purge on its dish in a dark closet for many days.

Thank you, this is very helpful.

I'm willing to bet I got a fair amount of condensation in my second batch. But like I said its still good stuff, it tastes great and smells great,it's just very sticky/messy and is light colored

I never heard of BHO being used to make tincture, I only make from raw material; like in the case of butter.

BHO is a finished product, yet a bit flawed - I wouldnt suggest using it to make other products.

BHO is successful when it is not sticky, if it sticks then more than sure you still have water in it. Cook it on low heat ( under 180C ) to evaporate the water and keep stirring.

Bless.

I gave up THC earlier this year, but was getting into BHO at the end and can offer a few things. Purging is good, either by leaving it to sit for a few days or weeks until it changes color, or using a vacuum setup (search utube.) Mashing and kneading it in parchment paper works too, but takes some effort and it has to be parchment, tracing paper and wax paper won't do it. IME it starts out dark colored and gets lighter, but all kinds of variables seem to affect the color and texture of the end product. I've done two runs with the same material and the same temp settings etc at the same time, and still gotten different results.

As far as consuming, by far the best way I've used is an e-cig. Mine is an eGo-T and I recommend those, some of my friends also like "trip sticks". You can mix your oil 50/50 with PG (propylene glycol) and inject it into the refillable cartridges. After about 10-15 hits mine would start to dry out, so I'd refresh it with a little more PG, otherwise the hash starts to harden and clogs up the cartridge or burns out the coils. Other than that it's very low maintenance, just charge the cig battery every few days, a cart filled with 1/2gm of BHO would last me for about a week of light use. This has so many advantages, it's really awesome! Quick and easy to use, carts are cheap and can be refilled several times, smoke discreetly pretty much anywhere, avoid throat and lung issues, add flavors if you want... I felt like it was more efficient too, like the same amount of oil would go much further. I loved doing it this way.

Second pulls are almost always less black, greener, more filled with plant products like chloryphyll, oils, waxes, etc. as far as I can tell.

By the way, there's a different way to make hash/honey oil or even honey buds that does NOT involve using a dangerous pipe bomb. This happened in my area recently - http://www.sfgate.com/cr...hurt-mom-son-3334364.php

Sorry I could not find a link to the original story just reporting what had happened to the woman. This changed everything in her life - from having bad burns, to loosing her son to loosing everything in her apartment. She's in jail and will remain there for quite awhile I imagine.

Now, here's the safer way - I admit you get a lot more plant products coming across, especially in 2nd and 3rd pulls, but I am used to smoking whole plant material (buds), so I don't expect anything to be in there that I wouldn't normally consume.

1.) Grind your herb (buds or shake/trim) super fine, using an herb/coffee grinder. It should be ultra fine - easy to puff up in the air and make you cough, etc.

2.) Place the ground up herb in a mason jar.

3.) Using good breathing, eye and hand protection, cover the herb up to 2/3rds the depth with acetone. This means if there's 1 inch of ground herb in your jar, you should add 2 inches of acetone.

4.) Seal and shake well for at least 60 seconds. Store in the back of a very dark cupboard for 1-3 days. The longer you store, the more oil will be pulled, i.e. the more potent (especially for a fist pull) it will be.

5.) Now, unscrew your jar and using a folded up piece of cheese cloth, strain the acetone/hash oil solution out into a Pyrex dish.

6.) Place dish in a room, on a windowsill, with a fan directed outside. Seal the door with a towel. When the acetone evaporates you should have an oily to waxy substance that you can scrape up and smoke/vaporize.

7.) Another option: As the acetone evaporates, dump some buds in there. The final, "dried" product will be very dank honey buds.