Hey,

The last time SWIM experienced a large dose of spice I remember feeling a vibration in the center of my head. This lasted for several days. I was just reminded of this when I was listening to Anthony Peake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C59GxcKoaw&feature=related). I haven't seen anyone speak of such a thing. I thought it may have had something to do with having an intensely bizarre and scary experience with the substance - during the experience of course. Afterwards, it was all laughter and good feelings.

I just wanted to see if anyone knows of any threads or documents that document this phenomenon. Anything having to do with vibrations in the mind occurring presumably from spice - I don't want to say it is the pineal gland, or the center of the brain but anything having to do with vibrations or buzzing in the brain after or during a dose.

Or if you have a theory of why that can happen, I'd love to hear about it!

THANKS!!

You're not alone. I get such sensations all the time, and I can reassure you there have been a handful of threads to address this as well. You may find that if you shift your focus to a different part of your head that the vibration may follow. In the throws of a DMT experience, any number of separate areas of the brain or head may feel like there is an intense buzzing or vibration.

I also get that, without smoking. Sometimes my perception seems to shift and I hear a pitched hum. It goes away after a few seconds but lately I try to focus on the source of it or something.

I can actually experience myself experiencing it. Quite strange feeling

I'd say it's some kind of energy passing trough, or a higher vibration manifesting for a short time.

Hope it helped

Bless.

Hello complacentnation,

Yeah, I noticed from the start of my work with DMT that there was a huge vibrational component to my trips. From everything in the room appearing to vibrate, to my soul being vibrated right out of my body. The vibration frequently turns into my "carrier wave" as the trance overtakes me and my eyes close - I now near a high pitched tinntinitis sound or warbling sirening sound that has distinctly synaesthetic properties - the sound is a line and each point in that line can encompass as much information as, say for example, all of human history. . . .

I am no math or physics expert, but so-called quantum string theory seems to still somewhat be in vogue - it talks about the fundamental stuff of matter and reality being composed of vibrating strings. I've always kind of wondered if the DMT state opened us up more to the true quantum realities all around us.

The quantum field tells us that everything is vibration at its basis. The basis of everything is vibrational information.

Even light is the result of vibration.

There is a huge spectrum that we can't normally perceive and this seems to change in hyperspace events. Opening your perception ( or antennaes in the DNA - which is an emitter-receptor ) and allowing you to partially or fully experience that vibrational realm.

Quantum physics = hyperspace

I really hope someone somewhere is studying this stuff. Trying to actually figure out where and if DMT is in the brain.

What could it be affecting if not the Pineal gland? And why would this substance harmonically make it come alive?

I felt it for several days - I couldn't stop thinking about it. At night I would have very vivid dreams.

I am all for doubting that DMT is produced or released by the pineal gland... or that the pineal gland is "the third eye". But, when judging from my own personal experience it just doesn't seem rational. There has to be a real tangible connection. Does anyone know of any scientists who may be working on finding out the real scientific facts about the effects of DMT on the brain and perception or the workings of the pineal gland?

You may find it worthwhile, even in a non-spice context, to investigate whether or not these vibrations are purely mental sensations, or if you can locate a physical site where the sensation occurs. I don't think it's possible for the brain to experience these sensations themselves (I stand to be corrected on this) and so I'm inclined to suggest that these vibrations are actually related to the way in which attention itself moves, and that they're being experienced, not as tactile sensations, but as mental sensations.

I'm familiar with perceiving reality at the level of vibration due to years of insight practice, and have looked very, very closely at the bare sensations involved in both meditative and hallucinogenic states. What you've described is similar to sensations I've experienced which seem to be connected with activity at the "third eye", the Ajna chakra to give it its proper name, and so it's not entirely unlikely that they're related in some way. Whether or not they relate to the pineal gland, I have no idea, it's an interesting theory but I remain skeptical.

Do you find you perceive the world in a different way while this vibratory quality is present? Is there a qualitative difference in perceptual clarity? Do you notice the mind operating in a somewhat different way?

Something I've noticed that I think may be pertinent in the context of this thread is that I notice for myself, that after much experimentation with the energies and vibrations, that I can direct the energy (and holograms) using just my attention and focus. Wherever I put my attention, the energy follows. It therefore seems relevant because we often find ourselves noticing the buzzing in the front of our heads. But afterall, we're usually focusing on something that is in front of our heads if not blankly staring forward and therefore it would make sense that the attention and much of the energy and vibrations would be there. As I try this sitting here typing this, I can easily shift the vibration from the center of my head, to the flanks, or anywhere I like for that matter. Now I don't know if these things work the same for everybody, so I'm just sharing my experience, but I encourage anyone who's interested to try out some attention exercises for yourself while on DMT (or when feeling the energy or vibrations in general) and see how you can affect it, and how it affects you.

I need constant reminding of this. Thank you for bringing up this poignant quality relating awareness and feeling.

Strassman is back on it, here's the most recent I've heard: http://www.cottonwoodresearch.org/dmt-update/

I was referring to the fact that traveling into hyperspace gives you a whole new perspective over "matter", up to the quantum level. I found it a lot easier to study in the fields of quantum physics, astrophysics and other somewhat complicated fields of investigation.

I believe that there is a Universal Library that we can access to obtain understanding and allow us to obtain knowledge.

I hope that explains it better

Perhaps what Parshvik was pointing out was that by saying "Quantum physics = hyperspace", you're absolutely defining them as equal, yet this is just an idea, not a fact, so it should either be presented as an idea or substantiated with a source (of which I do not believe one could probably exist).

I thought it would be obvious that I was pointing out my own point of view and ideas, sorry if it got misinterpreted.

I'll have a crack at rephrasing that one...

"Quantum physics = hyperspace": The phenomenological experience of 'hyperspace' can be described using the language of quantum physics. Any closer?

Very well put, Non Dua Natura. You got it!

Thanks for the info guys sorry for the late reply.


To Natura, I perceived no change in mood or thought when I felt the vibrations, but I had vibrant and somewhat restless sleep. Dream, wake up, dream, wake up....


I am very glad to hear Strassman is going to continue these studies.