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marge
#1 Posted : 11/11/2012 3:23:34 AM
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Hi there,

I recently learnt about DMT after listening to a Sam Harris talk. It seems to have minimal physical side effects ,seems to have no addiction potential and is really only dangerous if the individual is mentally unstable and/or predisposed to certain psychological diseases.

Correct me if I'm wrong ^

Now I have an mflb but I'm not sure which is the best herb with dmt.
So which herb can be easily bought off ebay? How much should I vaporize?

I know we're not supposed to be talking about buying drugs ,but since it's herb form it should be alright right?

 

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#2 Posted : 11/11/2012 3:34:00 AM


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What is MFLB?

Also, please make sure you read the forums and FAQ. Most questions have already been answered there, like how to make enhanced leaf.

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#3 Posted : 11/11/2012 3:43:43 AM

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Hello marge,

Welcome to the Nexus!

Sounds like you got the basics right.

And yes, please check all the links in your welcome pm - they are also in the upper right hand corner of the forum pages. They contain a wealth of indepth information compiled over a period of years by folks who really care. I hope you like what you find.

I also hope you might be able to take some time to tell us a bit more about yourself - write up an introductory essay perhaps . . .

Again, welcome to the Nexus.
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marge
#4 Posted : 11/11/2012 4:18:15 AM
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MFLb is a magic flight launch box, a vaporizer.

I'm reading the enhanced leaf guide and i'm kinda confused.

Is the stuff under herbs and miscellaneous just stuff to compliment the DMT?

and the stuff under additives has DMT?

correct me if I'm wrong , but I was under the impression I could just buy some dried herbs/spices and just vaporize it.

I don't want to buy dmt since it's illegal and I really dont know what i'm gonna get , and I don't have the luxury to do an extraction.

edit: Oh I guess I can just vaporize the plants under botanical?
I'm just looking for the simplest way to get the effects.
 
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#5 Posted : 11/11/2012 4:30:57 AM


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marge wrote:
I don't want to buy dmt since it's illegal and I really dont know what i'm gonna get , and I don't have the luxury to do an extraction.

Sounds like it's going to be pretty hard to use DMT then. Why don't you have the luxury of extracting?

Please, marge, make sure you read through the forums some before proceeding.
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marge
#6 Posted : 11/11/2012 4:48:26 AM
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I was under the impression that I could just buy a herb and vaporize it as a loophole in the law.

Now that it seems like I have to extract , resulting in it's illegal form things changed.

I live with my parents and I think it would be disrespectful to do any illegal activities under their roof since it would impose potential risk with the law. And if they were to find out what I was up to as well.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/11/2012 6:11:15 AM

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Yeah, you are not going to be able to just vape a plant such as psychotria viridis or MHRB and expect to have a DMT experience. The extraction teks in the wiki area are all about pulling the DMT out of plants so that there is a concentrated exogenous amount to achieve a heavy psychedelic or possibly even breakthrough effect.

Up to this point in time, the preferred plant for extracting smokeable DMT was mimosa hostillis root bark (MHRB) but that has recently become just about impossible to procure, thus folks are looking into other options such as extracting from acacias or phalaris grasses or growing DMT containing plants from seed. . .

For DMT to be active in oral form you need a plant or substance that inhibits production of monoamine oxidase, an MAOI. People frequently brew oral DMT, or ayahuasca using plants such as psychotria viridis (DMT containing) and banisteriopsis caapi (MAOI containing).

Lots of information here I know - but it was compiled by folks who care and who put a lot of time into it - it's worth digging into here.

And yeah, please don't do anything under your parents roof that they would not approve of. It's best to be out in your own place before making such decisions as to extract smokeable DMT and/or to brew drinkable ayahuasca. . . .
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#8 Posted : 11/11/2012 11:53:08 PM

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you COULD theoretically do a crude water extract of a nice dmt plant and make something similar to a 11x caapi leaf with chacruna or what have you.

you would want to add vinegar to convert the DMT to acetate (which freebases when exposed to heat) but other than that do a 3x30 brew , filter the heck out of it, reduce, and evap onto some more chacruna leaf.

i have not tried this method myself but i see no reason it wouldn't work (though the vapors would probably be unpleasant and vinegary). dialing in the doses might be a bit of work but start small and work up, no tolerance to worry about.


this would probably be the best method. but if you want my honest advice? I would wait until the time is right for you to preform a solid extraction.


also like pandora said you can go with other forms of administration such as oral or rectal (which doesn't require MAOI).
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marge
#9 Posted : 11/12/2012 8:10:19 AM
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Yea, I think I might look into the ayahuasca if it's not too complicated and more simple than extracting.

btw which method of administration has the simplest preparations?
 
 
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