Hello DMT Nexus...I'm new to new to DMT and new to this forum and really not sure if this is the right spot for this post. Haven't enjoyed psychedelics since the 70's but am wildly curious about DMT,Ayahuasca,etc. I live on the warm,sunny coastal plains of south east Texas not far from the Gulf. This is horse and cattle county so there are many,many acres of open pasture and wetlands...Phal. Abun. grows everywhere here year round(as well as Mimosa trees). At present I have approx. 300grs. of pulverized Phal.Abun.(wet) in the freezer now and can walk across the road and pick pounds of fresh leaves. I've spent the last several weeks devouring the TEKs (even though I know little to nothing concerning chemistry and the reactions of acids and salts.) Your Extraction overview has been a trememndous help. Lye, lemon juice and VM&P Naftha are easliy had in moderate quantities so I plan to use a variety of the teks. It seems as though I have all I need to keep myself in a steady supply DMT (~if~ my grass is indeed Phal.Abun.). My quandry is that ahead of time I don't know the potency of this grass and so I wonder which I should try first. Phalahuasca (w/syrian rue or passionflower MAOI) or go straight to an A/B extract with whats in my freezer? Any guidance will be greatly appreciated........................

phalaris has gramine in it which is toxic. be careful!!!!!!

do a search with the words "phalaris future", If I remember correctly d-juggz started the post it's full of info about the different strains and the problems their alkaloid profiles present.

Welcome to the nexus neuro_garden

I assume the variety of Phalaris grass you are speaking of is Phalaris arundinacea. Wild Phalaris arundinacea has a very variable alkaloid content and often contains some alkaloids that may be toxic for ingestion, such as gramine. Thus I would advise against taking it orally in a phalarihuasca type of brew. You will be better off extracting it, but before attempting to smoke/eat an extract you'll want to analyze it to make sure what you end up with is safe for consumption. There are several ways of analyzing your final product, the easiest being a simple colormetric reagent test.

More information on extraction of phalaris sp. and analysis methods can be found here:
The Phalaris Analysis Thread

You may also find this thread interesting:
~Phalaris = The Way Of The Future~

Thanks for the heads up Thick Light. I had never heard of Gramine until a few weeks ago while buried in the TEKs....Am a teenie bit concerned but more curious about experiencing the glories of this wonderful oppurtunity I now have.I want to be respectful of the dangers and the pitfalls but am way too excited to slow down.....I'wish I could see the stats on those who have experienced the negatives involved with Phal. gramine...would love to see those numbers..........

Will do my friend...thanks again..........

Thank you for the welcome Dreamer...and..Yes..you are correct..I did indeed mean Phal. Arun. Thank you for catching my mistake. Thank you for the guidance and your reccomendation. Extract it shall be!!!

Thanks for the links Dreamer....but....in light of everyone's leeriness towards the grass..is it really the way of the future or simply a flash in the pan so to speak?....~IF~ I choose to proceed with a pharahausca brew..A)will passionflower provide the necessary MAOI function?.....and......B)What amount of the frozen 300gr. would you reccomend I cook?

salting from room temp limo is supposed to reduce the amount of gramine extracted, also there is no need for a defat with salting.

alternatively i heard naphtha is really good at pulling the DMT without many other contaminants, so you can do a defat and pull with naphtha as well...

but if you can find another source than phalaris, i would recommend it (if the "mimosa" trees you have aren't albizia julibrissin, they would be worth checking out)


technically yes, but you will need a lot/high concentration, probably close to 500g iirc


all of it, iirc that may not even necessarily be enough (especially if you plan on preparing two doses and taking one - which i highly recommend)

you might wanna check this thread about passion flower as MAOI

As it stands currently, grass is not a good or safe choice for the aspiring enthusiast of the molecule. There are many people hard at work on ironing out a safe and effective grass tek and we could use all the people we can get working toward that end, but purely for research purposes. Without fully confirming exactly what is in your grass and and/or an extract thereof, it's highly inadvisable to ingest it in any way.

Since it sounds to me like your intention is just to experience the molecule and/or an ayahuasca style brew, I'd recommend just leaving the grass be till we have the kinks worked out with it and looking into other sources that are more reliable, such as the Acacia's. I'm sure if you do some reading on the forum and some googling you will be able to find something is going to work out a lot better for your intentions.

If you are super set on locating a wild source; Phalaris brachystachys, Desmanthus leptolobus, and Desmanthus illinoensis all grow in Texas and are much more reliable than Phalaris arundinacea. We can use all the people we can get researching these other sources as well.

Best of luck in your endeavors