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wearepeople
#1 Posted : 11/9/2012 6:55:40 PM

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cigarettes, dmt, and Anubis.


I had a dmt experience where I was directly told to quit smoking cigarettes.
I did four medium doses back to back;

One: floating skulls and bones engraved with beautiful gems telling me to quit nicotine.

Two: felt like I was on alien spaceship being examined by white lights and given the courage to quit.

Three: feeling of hundreds of pins in my throat. No visuals.

Four: about an hour later, under full moon, open eyes, alien temple, felt extreme need to defecate. I somehow managed to stumble inside to the bathroom. Sat down and started to clench my bowls. Success! Upon opening my eyes, Anubis (Egyptian god of undertaking) was standing right next to me. He was completely unresponsive to communication but I reached out and could physically touch his presence, all with my eyes open. It was awesome. I love Anubis now.


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#2 Posted : 11/9/2012 10:07:11 PM

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Greetings friend!

I cannot claim to have any vast amounts of knowledge on Chantix however a quick google leads intuition to tell me you would be much better off without it.

I have also been told to quit tobacco during a recent DMT experience smoking Changa, and am now 12 days clean of the poison. I won't lie to you and say it's the easiest thing to do, but I will say this.

The more you think about it and build it up in your own mind the harder it will become to quit. My advice? Fuck the date off and quit smoking cold turkey, right now as you read this post. It took me forever to finally quit and a few times I had managed to do so in the past it somehow crawled its way back in.

If you can go through a DMT journey I am telling you right now you are strong enough to quit alltogether! You will begin noticing changes in yourself fairly quickly, meditation will aid you with the mental and emotional side of the change and some daily exercise, lots of water and healthy eating will aid your body detox efficiently on the physical level.

If nothing I have said here resonates with you then it is not for you and I'm sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. If anything here does resonate however I am glad I had the opportunity to be of some help Smile


Whatever you end up deciding to do I wish you the best of luck with everything, I know you can successfuly quit and I know it will be one of the most beneficial things you could do for yourself.


If you have any questions about anything whatsoever shoot me a PM and I'll do my best to be of some assistance.

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#3 Posted : 11/9/2012 11:35:32 PM

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Severance, you're awesome.

I quit.Love
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#4 Posted : 11/9/2012 11:37:49 PM

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Severance, you're awesome.

I quit.Love


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#5 Posted : 11/9/2012 11:56:07 PM

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I have been doing DMT for a while. My first couple experiences also involved the entities encouraging me to quit. I unfortunately was never able to but I have made several attempts and will keep on trying. As for chantex, don't do it! I tried that a year ago it was the most horrible experience ever, and I kept smoking while on it. It didn't really help just jacked me up for a month.
 
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#6 Posted : 11/10/2012 12:01:16 AM

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Severance, you're awesome.

I quit.Love


Congratulations! I wish you the best of luck in quitting, and I would be glad to help in any way that I can, all you have to do is ask Smile

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#7 Posted : 11/10/2012 12:51:31 AM

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wearepeople wrote:

Upon opening my eyes, Anubis (Egyptian god of undertaking) was standing right next to me. He was completely unresponsive to communication but I reached out and could physically touch his presence, all with my eyes open. It was awesome. I love Anubis now.




I've had numerous Egyptian themed experiences so far (they're probably my favorite kind). I've met a number of Egyptian deities myself, but I've never had the pleasure of seeing Anubis with my own eyes. It is funny how you end up falling in love almost with such iconic deities afterwards. It's definitely a confirmation of some sort that whatever particular entity it may be (in your case - Anubis), if nothing else, at least bears some kind of genuine significance.

I gotta tell ya, I've reached out and touched entities myself, but my friend, it takes balls to reach out and touch what is essentially the Egyptian grim reaper Laughing Cool Thumbs up
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#8 Posted : 11/10/2012 1:02:33 AM

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congratulations on finding the strength to change. when you feel doubt creeping up on you remember this experience, reread your words. if nothing else, try communing with the spice once more with the thought in your head "should i smoke cigarettes" im pretty sure youll get a resounding "NO"
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#9 Posted : 11/10/2012 1:27:15 AM

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I gotta tell ya, I've reached out and touched entities myself, but my friend, it takes balls to reach out and touch what is essentially the Egyptian grim reaper Laughing Cool Thumbs up



Thanks Global. Big grin I was in a state of hysteric laughter during this. It was so bizarre it was comical.


According to the source below, Anubis ain't all dark. Better yet, there are two forms of Anubis; The watcher of the temple and the leader to the light.

http://hermetic.com/osiris/anubis.htm
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#10 Posted : 11/10/2012 1:33:54 AM

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Severance wrote:
My advice? Fuck the date off and quit smoking cold turkey, right now as you read this post.

this.
i don't even remember when i quit cigs (a yearish ago) and i still don't miss them (except the occasional drunken night, but even then i stop caring for them when i sober up).
after you quit for a sufficient amount of time, smoke starts smelling worse (camel smoke smells and tastes like ammonia, i probably couldn't smoke it now if i wanted to).

really smoking just ends up something to do when you are bored and looking to kill five minutes ("I have to wait outside? might as well slowly kill myself to keep my hands and mouth busy..." ), and that part of it is really the worst and hardest to fight. which goes to show you how hard it is when you REALLY try your best. keep your mind occupied, the more boredom you sit through the more your mind tends to focus on your addiction.

i think the ability to smoke weed definitely helps just with the oral fixation part of it, it might have been the reason it was so easy for me to quit. maybe replacing cigarettes (at least until you conquer your addiction) with some inert herbs (mullein/gordolobo et al) that aren't near as addictive could help if you find that you are succumbing?

best of luck, and remember: you will probably never regret successfully quitting smoking cigs, can you say the same vice versa?
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#11 Posted : 11/10/2012 1:40:55 AM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:

i think the ability to smoke weed definitely helps just with the oral fixation part of it, it might have been the reason it was so easy for me to quit. maybe replacing cigarettes (at least until you conquer your addiction) with some inert herbs (mullein/gordolobo et al) that aren't near as addictive could help if you find that you are succumbing?


E-cigs are a miracle in this regard too, if one is having a hard time. It gives you a way to get rid of all the really nasty stuff (tar and radiation etc) in the cigarettes immediately, and still wean yourself off the nicotene more gradually.
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#12 Posted : 11/10/2012 1:49:30 AM

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wearepeople wrote:

According to the source below, Anubis ain't all dark. Better yet, there are two forms of Anubis; The watcher of the temple and the leader to the light.

http://hermetic.com/osiris/anubis.htm


Ooh, thanks for posting the link, much appreciated. I personally own a copy of the Thoth tarot deck which was gifted to me from a friend, and The Moon card featured there is one of my personal favourites.

Parshvik Chintan wrote:

best of luck, and remember: you will probably never regret successfully quitting smoking cigs, can you say the same vice versa?


This is also a very good point Smile

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#13 Posted : 11/12/2012 9:07:35 PM

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Hey wearepeople - was wondering how you are getting on with this. Did you survive the weekend without succumbing?
 
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#14 Posted : 11/12/2012 10:36:57 PM

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wearepeople,

I don't know why I delayed in reading your report - it was really a very good one. Thanks so much for posting that.

I wish you strength in your upcoming journey and challenges. The upcoming days will not be easy but your choice and the message you have been given is a very good one, a very healthy one.

I do hope you will keep us posted. . . .

Thanks again for sharing.
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#15 Posted : 11/13/2012 5:00:37 PM

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Thank you everyone for your support.


Unfortunately, the battle continues. Sad

After a decade of smoking, it feels completely ingrained in who I am and what I do.
I often have visions of cigarettes being large meat hooks that are sunk so deep in my flesh, the barbed points stick out the other side. Like a fish with a hook all the way through its mouth.

Is it more painful to let them be and slowly die or rip the hooks out, barbs and all?



l'll be getting an e-cigg and a box of nicotine gum today to increase my arsenal for battle.


I'm sorry I couldn't reply with good news.


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#16 Posted : 11/13/2012 5:07:12 PM

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Well you still have all our support. Good luck!
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

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#17 Posted : 11/13/2012 5:30:20 PM

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Sorry for the dark post above, I felt it better to be brutally honest.

On the lighter side, I haven't given up. Very happy
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#18 Posted : 11/13/2012 5:32:56 PM

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It's tough eh?

Actually I really liked your original idea of setting a date for 12/21/12.

At the risk of sounding dismissive, I actually thought that giving up smoking was relatively easy. The hard thing was deciding to really do so. I tried and failed to quit about 100 times over about 3 years. Thing is, although I really wanted to quit, I didn't want to never smoke again. Does that make sense or does it sound like a contradiction? Once I accepted, really truly accepted, that I was never going to smoke again, ever, not even once, the battle was just with the physical withdrawal, which wasn't pleasant but frankly I've been through much worse.

Actually I found that 90% of the cigarettes I smoked were just feeding the habit and gave very little pleasure. But there were a handful every week that I loved. For me it was mid-morning with a cup of creamy coffee, early evening with a glass of red wine, or (I work in the woods) smoking a hand-made roll up round a fire in between refuelling the saw. Those were the tough ones to accept losing, but unfortunately it's an all or nothing choice.

What you said about it being ingrained in who you are and what you do is absolutely key I think. Giving up smoking requires more than just a few substitutes to take away the craving, it requires a fundamental change to become a non-smoker.

This is why I really liked your idea of giving up on 12/21/12. After all, who are you to argue with an ancient prophecy of the start of a new age, let alone Anubis Smile? If I could be so presumptuous as to offer advice, I would say go with your original instinct and choose that date, make the prophecy true to you personally. That gives you a month to accept the change and to say goodbye. Identify those special ones and savour them, but treat it like spending time with a loved one who you know is passing. and come to know, beyond any doubt, that a new age really is starting for you, and that you will be a non-smoker. Then at 11.00am on the day, pour yourself something nice and enjoy your last ever smoke, and at 11.11 rise to a new non-smoking you Smile

Of course I could be talking pretentious bollocks, but that's more or less how I gave up Smile

Love anyway

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#19 Posted : 11/14/2012 8:15:35 PM

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wearepeople wrote:

After a decade of smoking, it feels completely ingrained in who I am and what I do.


I feel ya. I started smoking when I was 12 or so. Now I'm 32 and it becomes part of your identity. But my quest with psychedelics has become at least partially about letting go of definitions, especially those that I use to define myself.

Anyway I wanted to drop in to say that I made it threw yesterday without any nicotine (the day before was my last 7mg nicotine patch).

I really do find the patch helpful. Healthy snacks help a lot too (bananas, carrots, grapes, any fruit or vegetable really).

Also, I have crazy dreams while on the patch. Nicotine is a psycho-stimulant I believe so getting a low dose while sleeping keeps your mind more awake than normal. I've heard of some people finding dreams on the patch to be uncomfortable or scary but I've enjoyed them myself. Much more vivid than I'm used too.

If you do slip up (and most people do, dealing with relapse is a big part of any addiction) just remind yourself of all the reasons you want to quit. For me it's partially the health reasons (being able to breath is really nice), partially because they're expensive, partially because they smell terrible (after about a month without smoking you'll start to realize how bad you used to smell when you're around other smokers), and mostly because I hated being a slave to them.

*edit* Also patches are dirt cheap, much cheaper than cigs and way way cheaper than gum. The Wal-Mart brand of patches run like $20 for a two week supply in the states. Which is what? Like four packs of smokes.

*edit two* And most insurance providers will help you quit smoking and even pay for cessation classes, doctor appointments, and patches/gum/whatever you and your doc decide is best for you. It's much cheaper to help someone quit smoking than it is to pay for chemo Pleased
 
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#20 Posted : 11/14/2012 10:02:21 PM

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On the lighter side, I haven't given up. Very happy

Thumbs up

it gets easier with time

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