I love this tek.

Its so easy, and readily availible to anyone its ungodly.

Have you tried registering, Dagger? I believe you should be able to.

Also, SWIM had some old robo bottles in storage, and he cut some up to build a percolator. He ended up wrapping a cottonball in a piece of a cotton rag and using another piece overtop the fungal material. It yielded a clean wash that seems to contain alkaloids, SWIM will report when evap is complete. If this works well, it could be quite revolutionary for psilocybe extractions, as it seems to be quite troublesome with the currently used methods--if the shroomery's threads are any indication.

By the way, what sort of drop rate seems sufficient for this?

Would it be possible to acidify with citric acid? What ratio?
Is it possible to extrakt mimosa and pull with naphta?
Can you pull something out of mimosa?

Supposedly, harmaloids in citrate form are not very water-soluble.

MHRB is a tough material to extract from, but if it's completely powdered, SWIM can't see why it wouldn't work.

Tough because unlike shredded caapi bark, shredded MHRB requires a good deal of chemically induced cellular breakdown in order to sufficiently access its alkaloids, whereas the powdered material's alkaloids are readily accessible for extraction.

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Kind regards,

The Traveler

btw, SWIM has tried the percolator method and it works very good indeed.. but SWIM only did it once and took the usual equivalent dose (40g caapi).. He had a good trip, but not necessarily more than any other.. maybe if he had taken less he would still get a good trip, so cant say if its more or less strong than normally..

the only pain of the process is that it took a long while for SWIM to reduce the amounts, like hours, even dividing in big pots.. its a lot of water to deal with

but still quite recommended, SWIM would say.

well one could use some kind of hdpe bottle (and/or hdpe funnel, like used for gasoline), thats not hard to find. SWIM will try it next time

umm..what if you guys used a coffee maker?

well if you just added enough water in the reservoir..but not enough to over flow it..you could just put more water in when you needed it..and the heating element in the coffee filter could start to reduce the water as you extracted with it

Well this is an excellent idea all around. Anyone drink Jolt Cola? Comes in a large tubular aluminum can, could chop off the bottom, add plastic/metal funnel and done deal. Or a piece of PVC pipe with an end cap and hole drilled in the middle may work as well.

Want to try this soon!

No luck luck for SWIM on the psilocybe extraction. SWIM doesn't think that psilocybe are very soluble in room temperature ethanol. He did many extractions and the resulting extract wasn't very active. The leftover material was still quite active, however. SWIM will try this with cacti and ethanol soon and report on the results.

SWIM has successfully used mini espresso coffee machines for extracting mushroom material. Very finely powdered material is a bad idea, though - they'll clog up/blow up . Think espresso coffee texture. Run two extractions cos the first just breaks down the cellular walls, the second seems to pull more?! Perfectly innocent piece of unmodded kitchen equipment, too.

Someone could possibly have an interesting day at work if he uses the espresso machine for making his coffee after the person who used it to extract mushrooms

SWIM's got an update on this! The evaporating ethanol extract from powdered peruvian seems to be yielding crystal needles within the tar. Is this normal for ethanol extractions? Or is this unique to the use of the TSP method?

[moved to a new thread.]

hey there,

so do you think that as an addition to the herbal percolator
[for an ayahuasca style extraction]
that you could also use a layer of gelatin after the mimosa layer to bind to the tannins before they passed through into the catchment vessel?

i.e.

Water/acid
|
V
cloth layer [to stop it going into the water]
|
V
Mimosa layer
|
V
cotton / cloth layer
|
V
Gelatin layer [tannin binder]
|
V
Cotton filter layer
|
V
Catchment vessel

This way you would possibly also get less gelatin/bound tannin complex in the liquid?
[as well as a higher concentration/faster binding efficiency?]

any ideas?

^^interesting idea. Would the water be able to pass through the gelatin (rather than around it)? Would premade gelatin capture the tannins, or does it require to be boiled within the brew (the resulting brew from THP while reducing volume) in order to do this?

Indeed an interesting idea.

You can probably use bentonite for this, I think that should work!

Perhaps even if you wanted to go hard on it,

a layer of gelatin on the top and then a layer of bentonite underneath it
[in that from my understanding the bentonite will absorb any left over tannins that get through the gelatin and also bind and gelatin [protein] that could filter through to the liquid in the catchment vessel]

i.e.
Mimosa layer
|
V
cotton / cloth layer
|
V
Gelatin layer [tannin binder]
|
V
thin cotton /cloth layer
|
V
Bentonite
|
V
Cotton filter layer
|
V
Catchment vessel

that way, [ideally],
no nasty tannins, no gelatin in the liquid.:idea:

A ratio for caapi:acidified water is listed in the original post as 1g:150ml.

For those that have experimented with THP for mimosa extraction – what sort of ratio are we looking at for a successful extraction of most of the goodies?