bird-brain
Posts: 959 Joined: 26-Apr-2010 Last visit: 30-Oct-2020
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I'm just curious if anyone knows of any dmt salts that are crystals besides fumarate. blooooooOOOOOooP fzzzzzzhm KAPOW!
This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking.
Grow a plant or something and meditate on that
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Picrate - mp 166-168" (Yellow picrate from ethanol) Ghosal & Banerjee 1969 Oxalate - Colorless needles from methanol mp147 Morimoto & Matsumoto 1966 Hydrobromide - mp 114.5" Transparent light yellow prisms (orthorhombic) (From methanol-ether) Falkenberg 1972 (Unstable in solution) Please dont play around with dangerous acids 
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bird-brain
Posts: 959 Joined: 26-Apr-2010 Last visit: 30-Oct-2020
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Picric acid? No thanks, I'm good without exploding crystals. thanks for the info end. blooooooOOOOOooP fzzzzzzhm KAPOW!
This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking.
Grow a plant or something and meditate on that
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Posts: 176 Joined: 23-Jun-2010 Last visit: 01-Sep-2024
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I'm wondering if an acetate would crystallize, if you use pure glacial acetic acid. I'm sure you remember the 'goo factor' threads, though I can't remember if anyone applied this to spice.
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Posts: 71 Joined: 18-Nov-2010 Last visit: 26-Feb-2024 Location: Frogeater Land
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Fumaric acid isn't that common where I live.
Oxalic acid dihydrate is quite common in crystal form and available in hardware store.
I didn't find so much information on DMT oxalate (solubility...).
Do you think it could be possible to produce DMT oxalate in the same as the FASA method ?
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Might not want to ingest the oxalate salts...
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Posts: 88 Joined: 13-Nov-2009 Last visit: 12-Feb-2024
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Don't have any mp or other data but a citrate salt has mostly solid properties. If ph is taken into consideration or stoichiometry is super accurate you will have crystals however they will be hygroscopic if ph is 6 or lower. Turns into an orange solid that appears to have been flowing but you never see it being liquidy.
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Chairman of the Celestial Divison
 
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citrates will cause you trouble if you want to store it for any amount of time, avoid oxalic, you dont want to get any kidney stones But what about tartaric acid? Expect nothing, Receive everything.
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Posts: 473 Joined: 07-Aug-2011 Last visit: 10-Jan-2014
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Tartarates are goopy not solid nor crystalline.
Citrates are goopy as well.
Perhaps Maleates would be worth looking in too.
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"No, seriously"
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Whats about phosphoric acid? And malic acid? Kind regards, The Traveler
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