Hmm, it'd almost be at least worthwhile to at least hear some negative reports. But perhaps no one's attempted this yet, at all.

My friend had his first breakthrough yesterday, but that was with the Machine. Tonight, nebulization! Updates to follow (promise!).

He's planning on dissolving approximately 50 mg (he's got a kind of crappy scale) of reddish-yellow freebase in a minimal volume of white vinegar (5% acetic acid), then putting the whole shebang in the neb. Thoughts? Suggestions? He also has several grams of brown syrian rue harmaloids, but wasn't planning on including those for the first test.

His thoughts exactly. He has several vials that are equipped with small glass droppers.

So he tried it last night, but it seems like a the milliliter of vinegar was simply too much to handle, even when reacted with the appropriate amount of spice (in this case it seems it was 50-60 mg). Though the acidity was apparently minimal (he forgot to test pH), he found himself coughing constantly, and could not inhale a significant quantity over 5 minutes. Next time he'll try increasing the strength of the vinegar by reducing it, then dissolving a similar quantity of spice in the smaller, more potent vinegar so that he has less to deal with overall. He also intends to use pH testing to be sure it is as close to neutral as possible.

I have a nebulizer and thought about this also.I just dont think you can inhale enough in the right amount of time. Also maybe dmt salt dissolved in water might work better than vinegar but I dont know if you can inhale salts for the desired effect

I was under the impression that acetate salts (which is the state DMT would be in in a vinegar solution) should be absorbable in this manner, especially since nebulization is NOT vaporization, more like 'mistification'.

Thats why I said im not sure. I was thinking using dmt salts with water not converting freebase using vinegar. So go try it out report back and let me know if I need to fire ip the nebe.

This seems like the opposite of the desired effect. The idea, it seems to me, is to have a minimal volume of liquid, as nebulization deals with very small quantities of liquid. Sorry for the lack of updates, my friend has been exploring alternate universes through more tested methods.

Like I said, these kinds of threads end up going nowhere. You need the DMT in highly concentrated form for this to work. I doubt it's possible without an MAOI, because without an MAOI you need a whole bunch all at once or you develop tolerance to the DMT while nebulizing it. This should work better for bufotenine or psilocin.

What about dissolving dmt salts into very hot water? Doesnt seem like it should hurt the nebulizer or be unpleasant to inhale as a mist.

Yeah ethanol will get you drunk.

I believe THC is soluble in fats. Maybe dissolve some hash in oil? I wouldnt really wanna be breathing that kind of gunk in though. (Guess it is better than tar and carbon monoxide, but still)

Very true


Whoever recommended using a salt would be correct as the medicine would need to be adsorbed in a similar fashion.




Nebulizing this type of medicine would be tricky

I imagine even a small amount of vinegar would be very unpleasant to inhale.

Even if you could get it into 1oz of palatable liquid it will still take 20 minutes to inhale it.




Could be true, as it would take a very long time to consume the substance.

Right but the nebulizer itself takes about one ounce of liquid

one ml would probly not even produce "mist"

All of these nebulization threads go no where. All these threads are dead ends. Why is that?

Has any psychedelic ever been nebulized successfully?

100 years ago, nobody had ever been in space successfully, much less gone to the moon. The idea was certainly laughable -- perhaps one would even be considered insane for having such an idea. There are just far too many obstacles to doing such a thing! Though perhaps it might not be quite so difficult in 2010 for someone to get a psychedelic atomized quickly enough for it to inhale it without using a RIMA to attenuate the rapid tolerance effect.

Now, is it completely impossible to imagine this potentially working somehow if enough smarts are used here? Whatever happened to the idea of using a regular cool mist humidifier to get a larger amount of liquid into the mist form without delay? I know these things generally come with water level detectors that shut off the disc once the water level reaches a certain point, but my humidifier's water level detector has failed to work several times and the disc atomized all the water until it was dry. This does not seem to have resulted in any damage whatsoever to the humidifier after occurring about 6-8 times. If the mechanism can (seemingly spontaneously) fail to work on multiple occasions, then how hard can it be to defeat this mechanism? This thing goes through gallons a day so I don't imagine it would take any 20 minutes to get a few milliliters of solution atomized.

okey dokey, this subject = aparently going nowhere...im going to do my best to take it some where, i will soon be having in my possession a 30-40$ nebulizar with unknown specs...i have the following substances to experiment with...nn dmt, 5meo dmt, freebase harmine/harmalines, also san pedro in vodka...im willing to try that but when consuming normaly i ussually need about a pint for the desired effects so i think one would have to do a straight up pure mesc extract to make this effective...could be done but not at the moment...anywho im thinkin, disolve harmines 5meo and nn all together in some vodka or vineagar and then? nebulize it! any suggestions for specifics (btw i wont be able to aquire said cheap nebulizar till mid feb :cry so updates after that?...i would also like to add to the subject the posibility of using hydrosols (basicly like essential oil water) to deliver the spice you could make a chakruna hydrosol (or a non active hydrosol like mint or eucalyptus) then disolve spice into it..wasnt someone saying you can disolve spice in tee tree oil? is this specific to tea tree or is it any essential oil? could you dissolve it in essential oil then dilute in water then nebulize? wait, disolve in vineagar then put in dehydrator (what is the max temp before you lose the goods in F please) till dry ish then disolve in water?...i realize im chasing my own tail a bit but erm yah i have a run on brain

NEBULIZE ME CAPTAIN!

DISEASE CANNOT POSSIBLY SURVIVE IN SUCH A WIGGLY ENVIRONMENT!!!

another lost nebulization thread BUMP!! hope to hear back!

Mr. Wiggle sure was excited and then................?

I wonder if anyone will actually try this again, now that mimosa is more scarce than alien tits.

hmm..yah i was really exited about this...i just have not had the time or money to play wizard, life has been full of things, alot. i am still interested in this thread and have the nebulizer in my possession i also have some mimosa pwd i could use for it, if someone came up with a really simple solid solution, for getting the powder into vapor i would do a few trial runs, i am not willing to do a full extraction on the mimosa and i am not willing to modify the nebulizer, it is a medcal nebulizer, and is desighned to "mist" roughly 10-20 ml of liquid over approx. 20 mins...im thinking maybe tincture the mimosa and preload with some caapi tea...then mist up?...tell me what yall think and if i get some good feedback ill give it a go