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dontbesosure2
#1 Posted : 11/4/2012 9:08:36 AM

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Hey guys,
So its been a little while since Ive had the opportunity to do anything except read the Nexus.
After starting my first extraction a little over a month ago, I have been doing pulls on the mimosa bark every 3-4 days and still continue to get a small yield from each batch. Each pull tends to be a different density and texture and I wanted to clean up my batch a bit and even out the density to make it easier to measure my doses, so I spent the evening recrystalizing everything I have so far.
It has come out a very nice fluffy texture, and a nicer even off white color, but I am letting it dry completely overnight.

I really wanted to get myself acclimated to the strange feeling it gives before moving further again (the last time I smoked a breakthrough dose, and it scared the hell out of me, so I want to ease back into it). Not having any D available while it all drys, I decided to vape the small amount that had crystalized inside my light bulb from previous experiences (which contrary to many reports, I find the lightbulb my favorite way to vape so far compared to "the machine" that I made).

I put on some "turkish grooves" from pukumaya (highly recommended) and set the visualizer in itunes. vaped the crystals in very small amounts (trying mainly to get used to the crazy "falling backwards" body feeling that I always get, which scares me more than anything I ever see) small puffs every minute or two and watching the visualization on the laptop screen sitting on my chest.

The first few hits gave a nice brain buzz, and I slowly took more in each inhale, about a half a lung full and then filling the rest of my lungs with clean air. Each minute the music became more and more a part of me. the trails from the particles moving around on the screen got longer and longer, and my mind started focusing more on the "black holes" that hid the light more than the light trails. I became enthralled with the rhythm of the particles and it fascinated me how it moved with the sound. I had completely forgotten that it was programmed to do so, and I started feeling like the entire world was really just the synchronicity between the music and and the lights. each one of us a particle bouncing through the sound waves.

Visually it was very much like a nitrous trip, no artificial hallucinations or entities of any kind, but what I was seeing had lost any and all meaning, and to my mind might as well have been the most beautiful visuals I had ever seen. When I'm in a good nitrous trip, I can only think in metaphors. Everything is just a recursive illustration of something bigger. And that is exactly what I saw riding around on those particles of light on my screen. Metaphors for the most complex problems, now showing the most obvious solutions. Thumbs up
 

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#2 Posted : 11/4/2012 9:27:23 AM

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Sounds nice! Thumbs up I've had several similar sub-breakthrough sessions, watching visualizations and spreading out my hits a few minutes apart. Except I usually prefer listening to Tool or Shpongle. Very happy
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gualapa
#3 Posted : 11/4/2012 5:07:36 PM

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shpongle's awesome, I also listen to a lot of Ott (he's produced shpongle's stuff).

but itunes visualizer? no way! you're missing out big time. itunes visualizer isn't that versatile, there's a far better visualizer called Milk Drop, here's an example (drops @ 4:20): Ott - Adrift in Hilbert Space - Milkdrop

here's where you can get Milk Drop, though you need to download Winamp first: Milk Drop for Winamp

Winamp is another music player. Trust me it's worth downloading. Milk Drop never stays the same and has some really insane visualizations. Here's winamp if you want to give it a try, I highly suggest you do: Winamp

If you do end up trying out winamp, all you do is select a song and then press CTRL+K (or it might be CTRL+Shift+K, I forgot). You might need to click the "Visualization" tab at the top to make it switch screens from the library to the visualizer. Fullscreen button is on the bottom left corner.
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Open your mind! Those without a welcome mat for new ideas won't ever learn how to live their life to the fullest.

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#4 Posted : 11/4/2012 5:23:13 PM

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Sounds like fun, love the visualizers... will have to try the Winamp MilkDrop thing- Mac friendly I hope.

Um, nope... not for Macs. wish I could add the old visualizer from the last MacOS to the new one, I miss the psychedelic mandalas. So I googled and found some interesting items>

iTunes visualizers There are really quite a few. fun play time!
 
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#5 Posted : 11/4/2012 6:02:48 PM

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Milkdrop has a really cool look to it! The only thing is that I got that strange falling sensation even looking at that video sober! haha. I could see how it could really suck you in! I also like shpongle a lot, and have listened to it several times on low doses and it was very cool. I had actually just bought the turkish cd, having heard it playing in the store and immediately thought it would be a great one to listen to during an aya experience. Great vibes though, and gives a new character to the experience. I just have to get the nerve to break through again so I dont use up all my stuff taking these small doses
 
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#6 Posted : 11/4/2012 7:39:19 PM

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yea cultural music like you mentioned (turkish) is always awesome to listen to, there's so much music out there than can be perfect to listen to during psychedelic experiences apart from popular/known music; cultural music is also authentic so you don't get mixed "atmospheres" when you listen to it. I know I've come across some native american music and of course Indian music (India as in Asia) has definitely been the most widely associated music with the psychedelic experience (of course you can use the music for other things that put you into similar states, etc).
"There is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand is to transform what is." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

Open your mind! Those without a welcome mat for new ideas won't ever learn how to live their life to the fullest.

existentialism - the philosophical idea that your own experiences & thinking initially determine why we exist and subsequentley, how we can fulfill our existence (our life). /////// I believe most of us come to the conclusion that we exist to exist, that there is no other answer for life. What we all debate in our own minds is how we should go about fulfilling our lives.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/4/2012 7:46:29 PM

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G Force by Sound Spectrum is v cool too
Better than Milkdrop IMO Smile
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#8 Posted : 11/4/2012 8:08:19 PM

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cyb wrote:
G Force by Sound Spectrum is v cool too
Better than Milkdrop IMO Smile

thanks for this! i've only used it for about 10 minutes but definitely a very good visualizer. a lot smoother/slower motions than milk drop, I like it. wouldn't call it better, but different. either way they're both far better than the stock itunes visualizer, that's for sure! of course milk drop can only be used with winamp tho... but I also like winamp b/c it doesn't hop as much of my computer's performance as itunes does.
"There is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand is to transform what is." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

Open your mind! Those without a welcome mat for new ideas won't ever learn how to live their life to the fullest.

existentialism - the philosophical idea that your own experiences & thinking initially determine why we exist and subsequentley, how we can fulfill our existence (our life). /////// I believe most of us come to the conclusion that we exist to exist, that there is no other answer for life. What we all debate in our own minds is how we should go about fulfilling our lives.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/4/2012 8:12:37 PM

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Aeon is worth a look too...but hogs the cpu
G Force is highly configurable ... speed up/whatever.
Not sure if its for Mac though

Theyre all good...looks crispy on a giant monitor Smile

Sorry hijacking the thread...back to OP
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#10 Posted : 11/4/2012 10:40:01 PM

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I definitely don't feel like the thread was hijacked.. visualizers were obviously inspired by psychedelia, and each one can add its own flavor and character to what could be an otherwise forgettable dose. Also its a good way to enjoy the state of mind and body load with psychedelic stimulation while maintaining control and testing the waters.

Personally I love the itunes visualizer. It has a very clean smooth look to it. Steve Jobs was a design nut, and LSD had a huge impact on the way he thought and designed things. He said that it was one of the 2-3 most important things he has ever done. So many people focus so much on the "visuals" when taking a psychedelic, but you can get those visuals without drugs, and without being in a psychedelic state of mind, they just don't have the same profound effect. But being in a psychedelic state of mind can allow you to enjoy and learn from artificial visuals just as much.
 
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#11 Posted : 11/4/2012 10:52:50 PM

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If I'm listening to music on DMT, for me all I need is the visualizer behind my closed eyes. It's light years beyond computer visualizers and just as in sync if not more with the music.
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#12 Posted : 11/4/2012 11:00:21 PM

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dontbesosure2 wrote:
So many people focus so much on the "visuals" when taking a psychedelic, but you can get those visuals without drugs, and without being in a psychedelic state of mind, they just don't have the same profound effect. But being in a psychedelic state of mind can allow you to enjoy and learn from artificial visuals just as much.

100% agree. I for one enjoy the visuals of dawn and dusk in any sort of settings involving nature, whether its the trees in a valley or the sky above a city. The sun's lower angle to Earth which it affects the appearance of things quite a bit, don't need any drugs at all to enjoy it.

Global wrote:
If I'm listening to music on DMT, for me all I need is the visualizer behind my closed eyes. It's light years beyond computer visualizers and just as in sync if not more with the music.

yeah the only time I really use a visualizer is when I'm on lucy or sober, even then I can watch a computer screen for so long.
"There is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand is to transform what is." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

Open your mind! Those without a welcome mat for new ideas won't ever learn how to live their life to the fullest.

existentialism - the philosophical idea that your own experiences & thinking initially determine why we exist and subsequentley, how we can fulfill our existence (our life). /////// I believe most of us come to the conclusion that we exist to exist, that there is no other answer for life. What we all debate in our own minds is how we should go about fulfilling our lives.
 
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#13 Posted : 11/4/2012 11:16:35 PM

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Global wrote:
If I'm listening to music on DMT, for me all I need is the visualizer behind my closed eyes. It's light years beyond computer visualizers and just as in sync if not more with the music.


I can't speak for the OP, but at the dosage level where I was enjoying the combo of DMT + music/visualizations, there are no CEV apparent at all. Otherwise you're right external visual stimulus would be pointless. Smile If you've never tried spreading out your hits several minutes apart, possibly mixed with cannabis, I can see how it might not make sense, but it's a very different experience than the usual method of vaping. Very psychedelic, but non-visual (at least for me). I do the same thing with low doses of shrooms, it takes at least 4-5 grams for me to get any visuals off cubensis, and even then it's pretty mild (although the mental effect is anything but!). But Milkdrop becomes extremely engrossing. Thumbs up
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#14 Posted : 11/5/2012 4:35:31 AM

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It can be fascinating to breakthrough with music where my body becomes that of the music and I perceive the music in what appears to be its pure form.
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