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TipToe
#1 Posted : 11/3/2012 4:22:14 AM
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Hey all, I tried DMT for the first time last night.

Id been contemplating and learning about DMT for the past 5 months or so. Ive been lurking here, reading stories and reports for just as long.

I found out about DMT at a difficult time in my life. I have struggled with anxiety and social issues for quite a few years, which has involved a lot of inner struggles. Ive missed out on a lot of things, lost some others. Saying that, I am doing better with it now than any other time since they became an issue. I also lost my youngest sister, a great friend to me around 18 months back. I think it would be fair to say I have never been as spiritual as I am right now.

I have experimented with various substances in the past. MDMA, Cocaine, Canabis. Each of those, for me personally, left me with a dire view on drugs. If anything, now I am a bit of a health freak with what I consume.

DMT had a grip on my focus from the moment I heard about it. The mysticism of it, I do believe I read a quote from somebody who researched it saying it was the closest thing they had found to god. Ive read you can learn a lot about yourself whilst under the influence. This is particularly fascinating to me. Being somebody who has phobias he understands, but struggles to accept, I hope to challenge myself towards being an open traveller whilst on DMT. And with the spiritual side, if I can feel any sense of 'the other side' then that might give me something to believe, with regards to my sister. I feel I need something to believe in. Whats on offer in the mainstream simply does not or never will appeal to me. In a way, I hope to have a spiritual journey that will allow me to feel my sister.

Id be interested to know your views, if these are bad reasons for me to want to try DMT. Id also like to know your own reasons. How DMT has changed your perception?

I only tried it the once last night. I dont want to break through yet, I am a little anxious about it. But I felt a lovely feeling of euphoria, no open eyed visuals, but I saw a humongous grid with my eyes closed. It must have been miles away, but it was so detailed, in neon green. I felt a loving presence to my right. I didnt know which to focus on. I felt amazed by the grid and closeness to whatever would have been to my right. It was all over so quickly I didnt have time to really make a choice. Next time I will make my second hit as big as my first!

I wont rush back in, I decided against trying some this evening. Maybe in a few days Smile
 

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#2 Posted : 11/3/2012 12:12:25 PM

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it sounded wicked crazy from 'the spirit molecule'. you don't really need a reason besides curiosity. dmt did not 'change' my perception from one thing to another, but it did elaborate and expand it. the most important thing i learned was the nature of self apart from conditioning, and the primal, barbaric, manic joy and power that is released if you cut out the barrier of conditioning that lies between the you inside of you and reality.

dmt actually helped me scrub all spirituality away. nothing has impressed upon me more that even the most powerful feelings and thoughts are only that, and getting high out of your gourd on powerful drugs naturally results in powerful experience. it grounded me back to the physical world and life by explaining very clearly to me that everything i really value is always at hand; that all the flights of fancy were excuses and escapes, when i should have been exercising, playing, socializing, accomplishing things, doing things with my hands and mind in the world of dirt, flesh and stone.

i felt 'clean' after.
 
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#3 Posted : 11/3/2012 12:54:46 PM
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had a very warm interesting night.
i am wanting to break through but i enjoy the experience of DMT sometimes mixed with a little blue lotus.
aya will be my next step in due course .
to seek meaning and a spiritual experience is what i am looking for.
 
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#4 Posted : 11/3/2012 1:01:19 PM

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For me DMT the best thing about doing is the sense of peace it brings me for days-weeks after.

As for perception and spirituality, I can't actually say that these things have changed much for me. Though I feel they may have been enhanced. I already had some firm ideas on these things before I encountered DMT and DMT only served to strengthen these views.

I will say that you may have to face any issues you have head-on if you chose to go for that breakthrough trip and this can be an uncomfortable process.

Good luck with whatever you chose to do.
Changes come.
Keep your dignity.
Take the high road.
Take it like a man.

 
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#5 Posted : 11/3/2012 1:47:33 PM

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I agree that it didn't make me more spiritual. But I do think that if that is want you want to get out of it you probably will. I have been working on being more spiritual lately myself. Mainly meditation and things like that. There is something called "The Dance Of The Swords" or "The Sword Dance". It is interesting. Intention and meditation are powerful tools because our thoughts are the engine behind our circumstances and our life.

I haven't tried dmt in a year and so this year with my new studies I am going to see how it helps in this regard.

 
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#6 Posted : 11/3/2012 2:06:59 PM

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Hi Tiptoe,

welcome to the forum. Quite many I think start out looking for spiritual experiences, though I don't have any data indicating how many of those that seek it actually attain it. While others who are not seeking it get it... It's quite unpredictable that way.

I'm not sure what your experience will be like with respect to your sister. My condolences by the way. Though I have never had to face a situation like this I am pretty sure DMT can help with overcoming grief and can help to accept our own mortality. In essence it can help you heal. I don't know if it can help you feel what is on the other side, because I don't know if there is one. And even if DMT let you feel it, I still would not be certain that it existed.

One thing you might want to consider in any case is either adding (oral) harmalas to your smoking experiments or to switch to oral ingestion entirely for a prolonged experience in which you have more time to make sense of things and feelings. For me pharmahuasca has given me some of the profoundest an helpful experiences I have had, while smoked experiences were more confusing, though equally interesting. And they say Ayahuasca has even more healing properties than pharmahuasca.

Personally I have used other psychedelics (lsd and mushrooms) more often for specific purposes such as healing (depression, disorientation) or to gain understanding of certain issues (shadow integration, negative feelings, anxiety, possible directions for the future), simply because the experiences last longer and the effects are a bit more predictable (I always have trouble getting the dmt dose to work orally).

If you are looking for a spiritual experience I do suggest ample preparation in any way you can symbolically set your mind to this kind of thing: fasting, incense, dress up, use symbols, make an altar, etc. Whatever you feel is right. This might help provoke the experience you are looking for.

Anyway, just some thoughts. Cheers
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#7 Posted : 11/3/2012 5:21:28 PM

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Hello!

I think it's nice that we've got a bunch of different people sharing experiences here..

I also have many anxiety issues due to my traumatic past. I definitely started drinking ayahuasca to "confront" myself. To start digging deep into myself, because I feel I had become so dishonest with myself and others throughout the years of depression and traumatic events. It's definitely big ups and downs, DMT or not. Life is a big trip.. but I kind of like the idea of "getting real".. to confront reality.

There definitely are some experience reports that seem to convey that the users fixed a lot of their psychological issues, but we're all different. I am more cautious than ever.. and at the same time more brave..

All the talk about DMT making someone "spiritual" makes me ask.. what is it to be spiritual anyway? Maybe one with spiritual practices may have a focus on his "spirit", but that doesn't mean others aren't living spiritually. I do think we take on a lot of crap which can cloud us in this kind of new age scene. I think many people complicate this spirituality stuff too much. I know I did. I'd like to let go of it.

Perhaps, for some, a DMT trip is no more "spiritual" than that which for example a rock climber may experience or someone doing something else which really fills their spirit in some way.

As far as what I don't know, though, which is basically everything in this intriguing world of hyperspace, I can't speak for it. Maybe there is something to really grasp..
 
 
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