These past few years I've seemed to neglect working with Syrian Rue. I've had plenty of vine on hand so I never saw a need I guess. However I've never drank any sort of MAOI brew + smoked changa, but I'm ultra curious so I decided to buy a half lb of rue seeds (since i'm almost out of vine and rue seeds are muchh cheaper). I plan on doing a thorough brew on the seeds within the next few days followed by a 1:1 changa session. My questions are for people experienced with this combination:

1)) I've read a few reports about it being slower; obviously...but is it "much" slower than if I were to just smoke changa by itself?

2)) What are the qualities to the experience of consuming a tea then smoking? Is it a whole different beast? Like time frame, intensity, the overall experience I guess.

3)) I've read a few reports that smoking on top of the tea caused a pretty much immediate transportation to hyperspace? Is this true for most of you that have done it?

I appreciate any feedback from those experienced. I kinda was just looking for a general consensus of the said effects/overall experience in comparison to just smoking changa.

Peace

It definantly slows the visions down, although i get transported more so it doesnt always seem slower(slower to take effect a little). It lasts about 45 minutes then a 10-15 minute come down. Rue definantly adds its own twist to the experience.
If you brew 3-5 grams of tea and drink, then smoke about an hour later, all you really need is 1 good hit of changa and wait a minute or two and then lay down and enjoy the ride.
If 1 hit doesnt get you where you want to be take another....i made the mistake my first time of smoking changa until i felt the buzz....i was paralyzed for about half an hour and it was slightly unpleasant for a few minutes.
As far as intensity, it's changa....but deeper Intensity varys from person to person.

For me personally, i'm not a big fan of the rue feel, I prefer the bliss of caapi

Good luck and report back

I want to get more into doing this, for the purposes of shooting fore more like an hour long ayahuasca like trip.

Is this combo useful for that or is it a 45 min ride of the same intensity as freebase? cause i wouldnt necessaraly want that...

I assume it can be controlled with tokes... what i want to know is does the rue potentiate the dmt at all, like make a 20mg dose stronger, or does it draw it out and make it more "ayahuasca like" or more "mushroom like"

way more useful than just smoking DMT. Some of the most amazing trips I have ever had on anything came from drinking a dose of caapi before smoking..add just enough admix to the brew to feel a glow for maybe 30 minutes, but not enough for even visuals and it gets even deeper when you smoke and a bit more like oral..but still your back within an hour. I have had my most Pablo Amaringo like full OBE spirit walks on that combination.

And yeah you can take little hits slowly until it envelopes you then just lay down..it comes on much slower than if you just vaped and it feels "thicker"..as if there is a whole other level of tangibility to the experience.

Jamie, thanks so much for your response! you answered my question perfectly, you understand exactly what im going for.

Thanks brother, i will give it a shot that way with a light admix, and then smoke slowly as im ready to go deeeper, Also your perspectives on the combo are much appreciated!

I don't think I will ever smoke DMT again without being thoroughly harmala'd, preferrably orally (Rue or Caapi tea). Jamie said it all!

Good luck and please report back!