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If you do not want to see entities;
Try this: -Put out an initial intention of "I dont want to see anybody" -Smoke smaller hits
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Gualapa I have experienced entity contact during all my Spice and Changa experiences, though its been the same consciousness each time. I have always felt protected by this consciousness, though during my last Changa experience the consciousness appeared to me in a terrifying and wrathful manner. I'm certain that this was to challenge and test the character of my being, each individuals experience with spice has a uniqueness due to their own personal perception of the world however everything that exists is connected and interdependent. So there will be a commonality and similarity within the experiences. If I had to give you any advice it would be to go into the experience without fear or expectation. I hope this helps to answer your questions, this is just what I have personally discovered through my investigations so far. Much Peace and Compassion
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gualapa wrote:ah ok, so the odds are very high on a breakthrough dose. thanks for the responses. SmoovPnCali wrote: I have met Entities with both doses. It boils down to a coin flip. I am sure that's not what you were wanting to hear, but in my experiences, that is the fact. Wanting to meet an Entity (or not) will have no bearing on weither you do.
not at all, that's exactly what I wanted to hear-the truth and nothing else. Purges wrote:Most times there is a 'presence' of some sort, recognisable or not. Often the presence is off to my side, sort of hiding while controlling or influencing the scene. Other times you have the cheeky impish 'in your face' types, but I suspect these are the lower ranking 'trickster' 'elf' type beings you hear so much about. i see. while I has this thread going, your mentioning of the imp-like elf beings brings another question to mind: are there many different variations of entities that you experience? as in are there trickster elves and loving/wise entities or another general type of entities. if this can't really be described I understand. I'm probably asking too much detail in areas that won't really help prepare me (tho as I've read nothing will truly prepare you for it), but nevertheless I'm curious. Yes. Very much so. Here's a few off the top of my head: -Beautiful balls of light conveying messages, -A large sinister maggot type thing, -Female faces, -Hands / body parts materialising form the fabric of hyperspace, -A giant gold buddha with gnome like beings ushering me towards its feet, -Cheeky little elf type things that dart in and out of your field of view - often making what appear to be quite obscene gestures, -'The source' or 'Godhead', -An enveloping dark presence that instilled a state of panic -Fairies -Sentient eyes -Jesters / 'grid people' -'Love blobs' -Telepathic communication from unseen beings Y'know, that kind of thing, I have no idea what this says about me ![Laughing](/forum/images/emoticons/laughing.png) Just to add: about 90% of my encounters have been amicable, interesting or pleasant, only one or two gave me 'the creeps' or made me feel threatened. Meditating beforehand can help clear your mind of negative energies, and if you maintain that state while 'there' a peaceful, centered core is probably the most effective way of discouraging them from getting up in your grill. Also, do not be afraid to just straight tell them to go away. I have also found that turning my attention away from entities can help move you on to a different area of hyperspace. Oh, and head for the light! Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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These artists have really captured the sort of entities I often encounter while in hyperspace: ^Dean Fleming ![](/forum/FileProxy.ashx?src=http://inspirationhut.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Joe-Fenton-Solitude.jpg) ^Joe Fenton Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=23486) me magic man! me gualapa!
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Aegle wrote: If I had to give you any advice it would be to go into the experience without fear or expectation. I hope this helps to answer your questions, this is just what I have personally discovered through my investigations so far.
Yeah that's what I've been working on. I got the expectation part down, but what I've been working on lately is preparing myself to not be afraid but strong instead. I keep telling myself there's no reason to be afraid, just go in strong. The only reason why I ever felt I might be afraid was because of my salvia experiences though, but the two obviously don't compare. thanks for your advice! Purges wrote: Just to add: about 90% of my encounters have been amicable, interesting or pleasant, only one or two gave me 'the creeps' or made me feel threatened. Meditating beforehand can help clear your mind of negative energies, and if you maintain that state while 'there' a peaceful, centered core is probably the most effective way of discouraging them from getting up in your grill. Also, do not be afraid to just straight tell them to go away. I have also found that turning my attention away from entities can help move you on to a different area of hyperspace. Oh, and head for the light!
well that's great to hear. thanks for the tips, I'll utilize them; I'll definitely make sure to report back with my first experience which will be within the enxt couple weeks. "There is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand is to transform what is." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
Open your mind! Those without a welcome mat for new ideas won't ever learn how to live their life to the fullest.
existentialism - the philosophical idea that your own experiences & thinking initially determine why we exist and subsequentley, how we can fulfill our existence (our life). /////// I believe most of us come to the conclusion that we exist to exist, that there is no other answer for life. What we all debate in our own minds is how we should go about fulfilling our lives.
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Purges,
Man I don't wanna encounter any of those crazy beasts....wow...
How do you even deal with encounters like that?
Crazy pictures tho...awesome finds....I will have to look up those artists....
Thanks for sharing them!
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gualapa wrote: wow, do you tend to have bad experiences when you do? haven't heard many people coming in contact with demons/dark entities often.
It depends. Some are brutal and invasive, but others are magnificent. It all depends on their perception of me, I think. I say this because some seem decidedly hostile while others seem curious and even inviting or protective. An example of the former is that I am quite often plagued (during journeys) by a sort of horned slug monster with seeping orifices. Everytime it senses me it'll open it's face up into something along the the lines of a chandelier, a dripping ugly ugly ugly dangerous chandelier. A good example of the latter is that I have been in the presence of giant dark ganesh styled elephants covered in these evil looking eyes seated on transdimensional sectional sofas brewing large cauldrons with grim reaper personifications of death ascending from their mouths. In this experience I was stuck in a state of awe and even euphoric at times. It felt as if I yielded immense power, as if I could dictate the forces of death and chaos for my own purposes and even amusement. and I also see skeletons a lot out of the corners of my eyes. Theyre little and cute and often times with higher dose they seem to jump out just long enough for me to think I know what I saw. I also tend to see very dark dripping mascara type female eyes Using recreational drugs, including psychedelics, does not give you character points, it's not a means of fighting the system, it doesnt make you a shaman, and unless you actually get out and see the world - it wont give you any deeper insights into it. Can psychedelics bring about these qualities in a person? Yes, But they need fertile ground. What does this mean? Never stop filling youre head and never stop fighting. Otherwise youre just another wasted mystic sitting on your couch getting high. you dont know youre on a leash if you stand by the peg all day
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I see entities on every breakthrough experience, and about half of my sub-breakthrough doses where I just linger around the edges of hyperspace. I've seen many different types and am able to vividly remember quite a few of them. I've seen the typical fairies and elves that people tend to speak of, "greys" (stereotypical alien looking beings), octopuses with eyes all over their arms, humans, giant insects, demons, and quite a few others. The few experiences I've had with demons, or what I would define as demons, were pretty intense, and definitely tested my ability to remain confident and strong. Good luck! All posts are completely fictional and for educational purposes only
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Sitra Ahra wrote: Everytime it senses me it'll open it's face up into something along the the lines of a chandelier, a dripping ugly ugly ugly dangerous chandelier. That's so strange that you mention that because I encounter a threatening entity as well that opens itself up into exactly what I was just describing the other day as a "chandelier". I don't know if the entity I perceive is as gross as yours seems to be by your description. Mine seems to really be more of a loose cannon than anything else. I'm really not sure of its intentions, but it's loony, wild and powerful. As I've said, I've seen him before, but it was just last week when I saw him again and when he opened up into the chandelier, after a few moments or so, he suddenly shifted his colors to orange and black: Halloween colors, and not a color combination I've ever seen in hyperspace. This was simultaneously terrifying, intriguing and hilarious. I found it rather amusing that it was taking on Halloween colors so close to Halloween, and on the other hand it made him seem all the more sinister. So I held my ground as it made contact with me. I wasn't feeling "fantastic", but I was being as brave as I could be and trying not to show any fear. I began singing, and the singing took on a life of its own. My voice dropped incredibly low and I found myself making that sound that Tibetan monks make when they do that really low throat chanting. I didn't even know I was capable of making that sound, but it none the less synaesthetically rearranged the somewhat malignant OEV holograms into more "acceptable", flowing and loving geometries. Never forget the power of song and sound! "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
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Purges wrote:These artists have really captured the sort of entities I often encounter while in hyperspace: ^Dean Fleming ![](/forum/FileProxy.ashx?src=http://inspirationhut.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Joe-Fenton-Solitude.jpg) ^Joe Fenton ahh, nice. i've forgotton about these artists. The first one reminds me of salvia
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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when i do, i typically encounter them in breakthru doses as lower doeses usually just yield some of the most beautiful, flowing and intense visions i have ever seen, came back thinking i had no idea geometry was so damned interesting and majestic. when i do break thru, been happening more and more recently only about a third to half the time am i actually greated by being(s) and of that third to half, only about half the time to they notice i have arrived and attempt to teach and interact with me. every time they have been similar but never the same: humanoid shaped, with no skin almost as if they were made of a pulsating energy, all of which have lacked heads. recently i had one where i was led down a short hallway into a small room where i was greeted with a clipboard with a paper poppin out all kinds of shapes while the being would poke or prod it in different locations while making different single sylable sounds with each poke. after i had been what seemed liked checked in i was led to a break room where more beings were, some holding the hands of what seemed to be their children where they proceeded to show me how to tile a floor their style, which consisted of tossing down a what seemed to be 3 ft by 3 ft tile, kicking it across the room where it would settle and vanish. i tend to encounter more beings when i have cleared my mind with meditation and or stretching before hand and can go in with no expectations. some times i will find my self comparing the present trip to past and i feel that limits the experience and it is only when i let go and tell myself the past ones dont matter because they anrt happening do i get shown new math or skills by these beings. we did not inherit the earth from our parents. we are borrowing it from our children. --- the difference between spirituality and religion? one cost money.
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I come in contact with all sorts of entities with psychedelic usage. More so it seems as If they are occupying my space and they forget this it seems, almost as If I'm a blank canvass and all these different entities each with their different vibe, doing what they learned to love, Passing, diving, singing, raging and even talking between themselves ![Laughing](/forum/images/emoticons/laughing.png) you name it! It surely is quite a hoot at times, psychedelics.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=23486) me magic man! me gualapa!
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Sitra Ahra wrote:It depends. Some are brutal and invasive, but others are magnificent. It all depends on their perception of me, I think. I say this because some seem decidedly hostile while others seem curious and even inviting or protective. An example of the former is that I am quite often plagued (during journeys) by a sort of horned slug monster with seeping orifices. Everytime it senses me it'll open it's face up into something along the the lines of a chandelier, a dripping ugly ugly ugly dangerous chandelier. A good example of the latter is that I have been in the presence of giant dark ganesh styled elephants covered in these evil looking eyes seated on transdimensional sectional sofas brewing large cauldrons with grim reaper personifications of death ascending from their mouths. In this experience I was stuck in a state of awe and even euphoric at times. It felt as if I yielded immense power, as if I could dictate the forces of death and chaos for my own purposes and even amusement. goddamn that seems dark, do you know if these experiences are common for all users? maxblaster wrote:recently i had one where i was led down a short hallway into a small room where i was greeted with a clipboard with a paper poppin out all kinds of shapes while the being would poke or prod it in different locations while making different single sylable sounds with each poke. after i had been what seemed liked checked in i was led to a break room where more beings were, some holding the hands of what seemed to be their children where they proceeded to show me how to tile a floor their style, which consisted of tossing down a what seemed to be 3 ft by 3 ft tile, kicking it across the room where it would settle and vanish.
that's insane! sounds completely surreal & amusing One Love wrote:I come in contact with all sorts of entities with psychedelic usage. More so it seems as If they are occupying my space and they forget this it seems, almost as If I'm a blank canvass and all these different entities each with their different vibe, doing what they learned to love, Passing, diving, singing, raging and even talking between themselves ![Laughing](/forum/images/emoticons/laughing.png) you name it! It surely is quite a hoot at times, psychedelics. extraordinary is what it is! do you notice a difference between the entities of one substance compared to the entities of another substance (like dmt)? "There is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand is to transform what is." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
Open your mind! Those without a welcome mat for new ideas won't ever learn how to live their life to the fullest.
existentialism - the philosophical idea that your own experiences & thinking initially determine why we exist and subsequentley, how we can fulfill our existence (our life). /////// I believe most of us come to the conclusion that we exist to exist, that there is no other answer for life. What we all debate in our own minds is how we should go about fulfilling our lives.
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I'd say different modes of transportation, however same destination. Different pairs of eyes experiencing itself as a whole without knowing.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=23486) me magic man! me gualapa!
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One Love wrote: I'd say different modes of transportation, however same destination. Different pairs of eyes experiencing itself as a whole without knowing. interesting, which other psychedelics have you had experiences with entities (besides dmt)? "There is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand is to transform what is." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
Open your mind! Those without a welcome mat for new ideas won't ever learn how to live their life to the fullest.
existentialism - the philosophical idea that your own experiences & thinking initially determine why we exist and subsequentley, how we can fulfill our existence (our life). /////// I believe most of us come to the conclusion that we exist to exist, that there is no other answer for life. What we all debate in our own minds is how we should go about fulfilling our lives.
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All psychedelics I'd assume, almost ever present and barely hidden, ready to burst out in the open at any second in anyone's sober state. Maybe... That is if even anything really exist to our understanding.
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For me, LSD was the first psych to show me an entity. The only one to regularly do that has so far been DMT though. I even get a sense of a presence with cannabis and harmalas. I think the natural psychs are more inclined to connect you with some sort of consciousness, never felt that, for instance 2cb or 2ci were likely to show me anything of that nature... SmoovPnCali wrote:Purges,
Man I don't wanna encounter any of those crazy beasts....wow...
How do you even deal with encounters like that?
Crazy pictures tho...awesome finds....I will have to look up those artists....
Thanks for sharing them! Best way to avoid 'em is to not smoke DMT ![Laughing](/forum/images/emoticons/laughing.png) I just observe and try to remember what I can. It can be difficult to keep your cool when it's going on, but usually I am so absorbed in the scene that any idea of 'fear' or 'emotion' is non existent, it is also over so quickly with smoked journeys that you have little time to react before you are shot on to a different leg of the journey. Integrating some of that stuff can be tricky though, for that I prescribe time. Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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gualapa wrote: goddamn that seems dark, do you know if these experiences are common for all users?
It doesnt seem to be. In fact I think Im unique. My girlfriend sees very pleasant images from what she tells me. If you knew me personally it would probably make more sense Using recreational drugs, including psychedelics, does not give you character points, it's not a means of fighting the system, it doesnt make you a shaman, and unless you actually get out and see the world - it wont give you any deeper insights into it. Can psychedelics bring about these qualities in a person? Yes, But they need fertile ground. What does this mean? Never stop filling youre head and never stop fighting. Otherwise youre just another wasted mystic sitting on your couch getting high. you dont know youre on a leash if you stand by the peg all day
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One Love wrote:All psychedelics I'd assume, almost ever present and barely hidden, ready to burst out in the open at any second in anyone's sober state. Maybe... That is if even anything really exist to our understanding. true.. though I guess in order to determine whether they exist or not, the definition of existence would have to be defined. who knows though, we all create our own beliefs about our strange existence on this planet either way. Purges wrote:For me, LSD was the first psych to show me an entity. The only one to regularly do that has so far been DMT though. I even get a sense of a presence with cannabis and harmalas. I think the natural psychs are more inclined to connect you with some sort of consciousness, never felt that, for instance 2cb or 2ci were likely to show me anything of that nature... yeah, besides LSD I really only care for natural psychedelics. I've done 2cb but the chemical feeling was always present and as much as I heard about it and other 2c's, I wasn't impressed and don't plan to engage in any other synthetic/chemical substances besides lsd. Sitra Ahra wrote:It doesnt seem to be. In fact I think Im unique. My girlfriend sees very pleasant images from what she tells me. If you knew me personally it would probably make more sense
Ah I know exactly what you mean. "There is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand is to transform what is." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
Open your mind! Those without a welcome mat for new ideas won't ever learn how to live their life to the fullest.
existentialism - the philosophical idea that your own experiences & thinking initially determine why we exist and subsequentley, how we can fulfill our existence (our life). /////// I believe most of us come to the conclusion that we exist to exist, that there is no other answer for life. What we all debate in our own minds is how we should go about fulfilling our lives.
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In my personal experience the odds of encountering an entity or feeling their presence is related directly to my deepest willingness to interact with them in almost all circumstances.
In other words, for me at least, free will plays a huge role. In non-emergency situations they seem unwilling to violate my free will. So if I'm not in the right mind set to hang out with them they don't show up.
In one instance that I now feel was a spiritual emergency (I was entertaining solipsism) they showed up anyway. Intervening to keep me on the path.
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