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#1 Posted : 10/31/2012 8:53:11 PM
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I'm pretty sure you guys read TONS of posts like this... sorry about that. But I have tried 3 extractions so far and all of them yielded nothing. So I'm trying to understand what happened.

I was able to get my hands on some, supposedly, MHRB in a market in Mexico. I even bought two different "presentations" from as many vendors. One gave me fully powdered bark and from the other I got regular un-powdered bark (pics below).

My first attempt was with Lazyman's tek using the powdered bark. Nothing. My second and third attempts using Norman's tek. Again, nothing.

Just a quick note from my last 2 extractions: I added less water (due to container capacity). Norman recommends 15ml of water per gram of bark, I used 10. I wasn't able to find VM&P naphtha so I used Zippo premium lighter fluid (I read in several posts that it could be used). Other than that I followed the tek to the letter.

So, as I have nothing to show for my efforts, I would like to to tell me if what I have is actually MHRB. Here are the pics:


The regular un-powdered bark:




The bark cut to smaller pieces:




The fully powdered bark:




My VM&P naphtha replacement:




If this is indeed mimosa hostilis then what did I do wrong? Perhaps the Zippo fluid is messing everything up?

Sorry to bother you guys with yet another "I got nothing from my extraction" post... but I could really use a hand Smile

Thanks in advance to everyone!!!

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#2 Posted : 10/31/2012 9:08:59 PM

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Look like mimo to me.

I'm not expert but i find lazyman tek to work better with shredded bark than with powder.
 
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#3 Posted : 10/31/2012 10:29:53 PM

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It looks like mimosa to me too. Did the solvent have a hint of yellow after sitting in the mixture? If you blow on the solvent after you've pulled it you should see a milky white color swirling around in the solvent. If you're freeze precipitating try evaporating half of the solvent before putting it in the freezer.
 
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#4 Posted : 10/31/2012 10:59:14 PM
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I'm not expert but i find lazyman tek to work better with shredded bark than with powder.


I might give it a try with shredded bark... my concern is that when I used powder I got nothing Sad

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It looks like mimosa to me too. Did the solvent have a hint of yellow after sitting in the mixture? If you blow on the solvent after you've pulled it you should see a milky white color swirling around in the solvent. If you're freeze precipitating try evaporating half of the solvent before putting it in the freezer.


Yes, the Zippo fluid did have a (very faint) yellowish color. I didn't blow on the solvent, I just let it sit (took about 4.5 hours to be completely gone) and I never saw any milky stuff in it. And finally I did freeze precipitate for about 16 hours and my freezer was set to the lowest temp, damn I'm quite sure I could kill a man with that ice cream! Lol!

Evaporating half the solvent might do the trick. Gonna give it a try.

Thanks guys. I'm trying again later today Smile

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#5 Posted : 11/1/2012 12:57:31 AM

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#6 Posted : 11/1/2012 9:44:40 AM

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Looks the right color, but some of the outer bark looks more like stem than root. Stem bark is worthless...except as tepezcohuite
 
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#7 Posted : 11/1/2012 10:12:33 AM

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Never possesed any myself (yet)
But it certainly looks like what I have seen in numerous pictures Thumbs up
 
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#8 Posted : 11/1/2012 12:33:56 PM

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I'm certainly no expert, but that first photo looks like regular tree bark, not root bark. And the fully shredded pic looks a tad on the orange side, when my bark has all been more pinkish. Of course, this may just be the photo quality, so who knows.

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#9 Posted : 11/1/2012 12:39:27 PM

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You also need to cut back the amount of bark you are using so you can use the proper ratios of water/lye/bark in your jar. That or find a bigger extraction vessel.

There is a reason that the ratio is 1/1/15.

Not having enough water in your extraction will definitely keep you from pulling the dmt.
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#10 Posted : 11/2/2012 4:55:04 AM

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although its a replacement is that zippo premium fluid fluid an optimal solvent? and it looks like whole mimosa bark to me
 
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#11 Posted : 11/2/2012 7:14:35 AM
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Thanks everyone for your responses. I made two additional attempts with two different solvents and got nothing, my guess is that what I've got is regular trunk bark and not root bark.

MomentOfTruth wrote:
You also need to cut back the amount of bark you are using so you can use the proper ratios of water/lye/bark in your jar. That or find a bigger extraction vessel.

There is a reason that the ratio is 1/1/15.

Not having enough water in your extraction will definitely keep you from pulling the dmt.


I don't think that's my problem. In Lazyman's tek (assuming it works) it says to use 2000 - 3000 ml of water for every 500g of bark. That's a 1:6 ratio. I'm using way more than that. But thanks for the comment Smile

I will try to order from
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and give it another shot. Do you guys have good comments about that place? I remember to have read good reviews about it.

When I finally get to extract some nice DMT I'll surely report back with any comments, tips & tricks that hopefully someone will find helpful.

Cheers!

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#12 Posted : 11/2/2012 9:21:09 AM

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I dunno were you live but here you can buy pure naphta at the store. Looking for cleaning solvant with the name "essence f" on it.
It sound better than use ligther fluids imo.
If still no yield, bad suppliers...

( i don't know the smartshop your talking about but i get my mimo at avalonmagicplants and i'm happy with the quality (: )
 
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#13 Posted : 11/2/2012 1:19:05 PM

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MomentOfTruth wrote:
You also need to cut back the amount of bark you are using so you can use the proper ratios of water/lye/bark in your jar. That or find a bigger extraction vessel.

There is a reason that the ratio is 1/1/15.

Not having enough water in your extraction will definitely keep you from pulling the dmt.


I don't think that's my problem. In Lazyman's tek (assuming it works) it says to use 2000 - 3000 ml of water for every 500g of bark. That's a 1:6 ratio. I'm using way more than that. But thanks for the comment Smile



You're right, my bad. The lazyman tek only shows 1:1:6 ratio. In my opinion i think more water is better. Especially with the powdered stuff. I've always done 1:1:15 with all of my powdered bark and had much success. Why don't you try the noman's tek with 1:1:15 on the powdered bark and see if you pull anything?

Also, i agree with whoever said that the bark looks more like tree bark than mimosa hostilis.



My powdered always looks like this...



Very pink in color. It has always been very consistent.
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#14 Posted : 11/2/2012 1:30:46 PM

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that whole bark looks very similar to whole bark i have had in the past and it was fine, 1%+.
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