You say ppi, I say dpi.. (sings) 'let's call the whole thing off...'

Man, that's a tough call. My first instinct is to say that the second one is my favorite because of the pop you get on the shape when the background is deemphasized a bit (third one loses too much of the background imho). At the same time, I agree with Art's comment that the first one has a very unique flavor to it that none of our other pieces have. Maybe if the background was darkened a bit, you could get the foreground pop but keep all of the interesting shapes behind it. I guess what I'm looking for in the first one is more contrast. You can really tell the difference if you convert the image to b&w. The first image is mostly midtones.

To me it seems that the third is the best. Since the symbol is clearly in front of the background, giving it a more 3D aspect and some mystic ideas to me (the deep background).


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Here's the latest incarnation zoomed out a little and with a different background. Also attached is the flattened psd file. Let me know if I changed too much with the background.

After thinking about this a bit more (and you'll have to forgive me for over-thinking things as this is my habit) I think contrast is what I want from many of your pieces. Where are your super darks?! A really stark range would make certain elements really come forward and drive others back. That being said, I don't think I've mentioned enough how awesome your pieces are. You have an amazing skill that serves as an inspiration to myself and I'm sure others. I hope at least some of my ramblings help.

I like this loads better MelCat, the distraction is gone. Although the new purply/pink of the background is the same colour as the molecules now and they get lost (especially when it is smaller)..perhaps adjust the hue on either/or and it will right itself.

So I found that it really needed to be all cosmic or all carnival... any of the transparent layered combos just look messy IMO. And Art's right, there is plenty of cosmic stuff already... so here are several new carnival versions, this time with way more contrast. Still not 100% but I feel closer. Feedback anyone?

No.1 or No.2 ...can't decide...definitely better contrast now and nicely carnivally....oooh it's tricky.. if you held a gun to my head, I'd save my life with door No.1

Guy - Of the new crop, I like #1 the best, but I liked it before.

MelCat - I actually preferred the composition of the grid version, and liked the implications of a gigantic lattice work stretched across the universe, but go with your gut. Pick the one you like the best.

Thank you everyone for pouring their time and inspiration onto this project!!!

One question though; I notice that some of the symbols you use look very esoteric/satanic/illuminati/freemason/reptilian. Are you people members of reptilian cults?

i sure am, i never asked about the rest

im here waiting for the harvest, you guy my friends or food?

no 1 gets my vote Guyo

#1 Guyo

MelCat, that thing rocks (although cyb has a point...but that doesn't detract from how awesome it is).

All of you guys are really throwing out some awesome stuff and I can't wait to see the final product. I'm starting to think that instead of linking straight to the forum as I currently do, I will probably start hanging out/staring at the welcome portal for excessive amounts of time.

Thanks for the input guys. I'm gonna go back to the drawing board and see what else I can come up with...


Guy - I really like #1.

I like the orange in #2 but the yellow and lime colors kind of blend with the whites of the top part.

I think they all look pretty cool but something about the first one just pops.


Infundibulum - I'm in David Ickes cult in that I believe the whole world is run by psychopaths.

I honestly can't tell if I'm making it better or worse...

There are so many layers now that each little change brings out huge differences.

This one seems to blend the best but isn't nearly as intense as the previous versions.

I could rock out a few different variations pretty easy and then Daedaloops can figure out which one works best with overall image and composition.

Let me know whatcha want me to do Daeda...

I liked the last one better (just did a side by side and the intensity difference is huge). That bluish-purplish nebula-like effect around the outer edge of the rings that is gone from this one really rocked my soxx.

Yeah, I was afraid of that... I'm feeling kinda burnt on it right now so I'm gonna take the rest of the night off from it. I might take some mushrooms tomorrow and play with it some more then.

Yeah, I couldn't put it down...

Seriously, last variation of the evening.

Apologizes for bogging down the thread with so many versions...

Ok, first of all, I'm in a peculiar mood right now, and I feel kinda bad that I said anything, it's not my job to decide how this goes it's a group effort, like Art said first and foremost you should all just make panels in they way that you yourself prefer. I have poor social skills so I don't always realize if I'm being annoying or pushy. Sometimes I'd just like to.. i dunno become a hermit or something. So sorry I didn't mean to sound like I'm ordering anyone around, I just wanted to quickly see how that certain MelCats version would have looked without the background grid, but I was able to do that by roughly photoshopping it away. I'm just trying out different combinations cos there's alot of variables..

That being said I really love this latest one you posted, it is vibing really well with Nils' neighboring panel color-wise, that is my favourite now along with the one that I mentioned above. Oh and I wanted to say, as a cool coincidence the panels sort of happened to be arranged in a way that the right side has a blue-purple color theme, and the left side has a green-red color theme. I think it looks very nice so far but I also think I'm becoming objectively blind because I've looked at the different combinations so much. I can post a screenie as soon as Tokapelli posts some kind of a colored wip.. Not to rush you or anything! but I would just like to see the overall composition with the lowest panel included.

Also sorry cyb about that dpi stuff I didn't mean to come off sounding like a dick who always has to be right , and anyways it's totally irrelevant and has nothing to do with this project ..


Well now, that's alot of text over nothing, so sorry about that too now that I'm in the apologetic line.. Hopefully one day art collaborations can be made via telepathy..

but then again I guess that would take all the challenge out of it..

I can obviously only speak for myself, but I don't think you've come off in a bad way at all. It's always a bit tricky to walk the line with constructive criticism but I think everyone in this thread has been pretty good about giving honest opinions without being pushy. I also think it's worth mentioning you've done a great job putting this together daedaloops! Don't get down on yourself.

I think someone may be coming off of an empathy wave.

Edit: Mel, I forgot to mention that your last post is my favorite of yours! Very, very nice work.

Well, Daeda, you did take the initiative to get this thing rolling, and somebody does need to look out for the integrity of the overall screen while the rest of us obsess over our little panels. I don't think you have come off as pushy at all, and to be honest I'm glad someone besides me is in charge of coordinating the whole thing. I second Nils in saying that you've done a great job with handling this.

Can't wait to see it! Tokapelli: the pressure is on...