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Where it says: *It is impossible to say how much water is necessary for a brew. Bring the water to a boil, and then reduce heat to keep the water just above the threshold of boiling. Shouldn't it be "below" ? Regarding reducing, how is it done, boiling or simmering? Finally, how would the procedure differ if one were to prepare P. Viridis apart from Caapi? Info gathered from several sources suggests that one round of about 1h30 should be enough. Very informative thread, BTW. This is the time to really find out who you are and enjoy every moment you have. Take advantage of it.
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Phantastica wrote:quick question can i use an aluminum pot with a stainless steel coating to brew aya? thanks a lot<3 Yes, this will work fine! nexalizer wrote:*It is impossible to say how much water is necessary for a brew. Bring the water to a boil, and then reduce heat to keep the water just above the threshold of boiling.
Shouldn't it be "below" ? ... Regarding reducing, how is it done, boiling or simmering? Yes, you want to brew and reduce at a high simmer. A long boil seems to caramelize the caapi, making it more difficult to keep down. PK Dick is to LSD as HP Lovecraft is to Mushrooms
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cool ragabar thanks! <3 <3
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ragabr wrote: Yes, you want to brew and reduce at a high simmer. A long boil seems to caramelize the caapi, making it more difficult to keep down.
Noted, thank you This is the time to really find out who you are and enjoy every moment you have. Take advantage of it.
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I just wanted to send out good vibes, a hug, and a heartfelt "thank you" to you, Ms_manic_minxx!! Because of the 9 hour brew time, I had only partaken of aya brews a few times. However, after reading your OP, my desire to experiment with caapi brews was rejuvenated because I naively didn't think about the fact that I could brew multiple doses at a time and store them in jars in the freezer after boiling. Your attention to detail was beautiful. Your instructions of "watch the smoke, see how the brew changes over time and don't leave it, as energy in is energy out!" (sorry, paraphrased) really reflected your love and respect for this sacrament. The positive energy reverberating from your post was such an inspiration to dig into aya and myself. Again, because of your post, I now have 4 brews of love and introspection remaining in my freezer. I started out with 6 Peace and Happy Journeys All posts are completely fictional and for educational purposes only
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Thank you for the guidance... I was going to make some pharmahuasca but I see the love and energy that you have put into this and I have been inspired. Thanks again x
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I would like to say thnak you for posting this.... it is inspirational and has allowed me to overcome the fear of brewing myself and messing up steps or forgetting them in the process. Many thanks are in order for this Ms_... I have longed for the comforting touch of Aya for almost a year now. my mind and body both telling me its time and overdue for another session, just this time I will not have to travel to South America in order to get a correct brew!
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Thank you for this amazing resource. I'm presently brewing 150g of caapi and 100g of chacruna. Blessings to this brew. It was the fabled year 2012. Within the seemingly doomed and feeble slave-species of homo-sapien sapien a minute percentage began experimenting with various forms of psycho-active plant allies and thought manifestation techniques. Unbeknownst to them, this would be the birthing of a new sub-species, the highest form of Life in the universe. With the assistance of these timeless plant teachers a new race was born, a race without boundaries, physical or mental, a race without judgement or violence. Divinity had descended upon the inconspicuous planet of Earth and cosmic-man was born.
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First off I want to thank everyone, especially minxx, for ongoing contributions to this thread.
Unfortunately I'm not finding the information as clear and immediately helpful as everyone else. The most confusing part for me is how much water to start with and how to adequately measure the amount of water when reducing. I'll number my questions so it's easier for somebody to respond if he/she feels inclined to do so:
1) Can I basically use anywhere from one cup of water to a gallon and it won't make any difference in the end so long as I properly reduce my brew?
2) How am I supposed to know when my brew has been sufficiently reduced?
3) What does "light" mean in the context of "vine first, light ~20 minutes later"?
4) What would happen if I poured some extra Aya into a mason jar and put it in the refrigerator for a week or so without "sterilizing" or "pasteurizing" it?
5) Is it ever advisable to consume a brew consisting of BOTH Syrian rue and Banisteriopsis caapi? Why or why not?
The Ayahuasca brewing process seems to be a bit more loose than the DMT extraction TEKs I've studied and performed over the past year, and that makes me slightly anxious. I'm confident I can brew Aya just fine but I want to ensure all of my queries are answered beforehand to avoid anxieties cropping up during pre-flight or even mid-journey. I'm very scientifically inclined and feel somewhat lost without step-by-step instructions coinciding exact measurements and specifics relating to every last detail. Sorry if I'm coming off as a pain in the ass; I just want to ensure I have the most positive experience possible!
Thanks again to everyone for your insight and input thus far. I'm definitely a lot closer to feeling comfortable brewing Aya than I've ever been!
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remember,happiness doesn´t depend on who you are or what you have,It´s depends solely on what you think d
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Hi. I agree with you Lion<dragon,is always good make the right things to obtain the right experience, and is also tru what entheogenadvocate says.....much respect is advise in the brewing/extraction/use of this sacred molecule.
Im haven´t to much experience with the caapi brews. Lately I find some shedred caapi vine. Yesterdeay I took 5 gr and soak it in hot water with a PH of 3 (obtained by phosphoric acid). I keep the tea all night soaking ....My question is.....It is possible and safe to smoalk freebase DMT on top of the tea?.....
I thank you from know....king regards
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remember,happiness doesn´t depend on who you are or what you have,It´s depends solely on what you think d
Posts: 66 Joined: 29-Mar-2012 Last visit: 23-Oct-2023 Location: spaceship EARTH
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Hi. I agree with you Lion<dragon,is always good make the right things to obtain the right experience, and is also tru what entheogenadvocate says.....much respect is advise in the brewing/extraction/use of this sacred molecule.
Im haven´t to much experience with the caapi brews. Lately I find some shedred caapi vine. Yesterdeay I took 5 gr and soak it in hot water with a PH of 3 (obtained by phosphoric acid). I keep the tea all night soaking ....My question is.....It is possible and safe to smoalk freebase DMT on top of the tea?.....
I thank you from know....king regards
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LionDragon wrote:First off I want to thank everyone, especially minxx, for ongoing contributions to this thread.
Unfortunately I'm not finding the information as clear and immediately helpful as everyone else. The most confusing part for me is how much water to start with and how to adequately measure the amount of water when reducing. I'll number my questions so it's easier for somebody to respond if he/she feels inclined to do so:
1) Can I basically use anywhere from one cup of water to a gallon and it won't make any difference in the end so long as I properly reduce my brew?
2) How am I supposed to know when my brew has been sufficiently reduced?
3) What does "light" mean in the context of "vine first, light ~20 minutes later"?
4) What would happen if I poured some extra Aya into a mason jar and put it in the refrigerator for a week or so without "sterilizing" or "pasteurizing" it?
5) Is it ever advisable to consume a brew consisting of BOTH Syrian rue and Banisteriopsis caapi? Why or why not?
The Ayahuasca brewing process seems to be a bit more loose than the DMT extraction TEKs I've studied and performed over the past year, and that makes me slightly anxious. I'm confident I can brew Aya just fine but I want to ensure all of my queries are answered beforehand to avoid anxieties cropping up during pre-flight or even mid-journey. I'm very scientifically inclined and feel somewhat lost without step-by-step instructions coinciding exact measurements and specifics relating to every last detail. Sorry if I'm coming off as a pain in the ass; I just want to ensure I have the most positive experience possible!
Thanks again to everyone for your insight and input thus far. I'm definitely a lot closer to feeling comfortable brewing Aya than I've ever been! 1) Can I basically use anywhere from one cup of water to a gallon and it won't make any difference in the end so long as I properly reduce my brew? -Yes that is correct, as long as the botanical material is submerged in the water throughout the brewing process, the amount you use doesn't really matter since you will be reducing it to a small drinkable amount in the end.2) How am I supposed to know when my brew has been sufficiently reduced? -Your brew is sufficiently reduced when you have it down to an amount that is easily drinkable, about the amount that will fit a shot glass is what I shoot for. If you reduce too much the brew will become thick and syrupy, this can be remedied by simply adding a touch more water to thin it out.3) What does "light" mean in the context of "vine first, light ~20 minutes later"? -"Light" refers to the dmt containing admixture plant.4) What would happen if I poured some extra Aya into a mason jar and put it in the refrigerator for a week or so without "sterilizing" or "pasteurizing" it? -the tea is basically "pasteurized" when you brew it. It will store fine inthe refrigerator for months and in the freezer for basically an indefinite amount of time. It will even tend to last for weeks without being refrigerated at all, though it will ferment, fermented brew is perfectly safe to drink so long as it has not molded. If there is any doubt you can simply re-boil the tea for a while to kill any mold or pathogens that may have formed in your brew.5) Is it ever advisable to consume a brew consisting of BOTH Syrian rue and Banisteriopsis caapi? Why or why not? Many people like to add a bit of rue to their huasca brews, some say it adds a bit more depth to the experience. I would advise waiting till you are already familiar with a traditional caapi and a traditional rue brew before combining them.
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ganesha wrote:Hi. I agree with you Lion<dragon,is always good make the right things to obtain the right experience, and is also tru what entheogenadvocate says.....much respect is advise in the brewing/extraction/use of this sacred molecule.
Im haven´t to much experience with the caapi brews. Lately I find some shedred caapi vine. Yesterdeay I took 5 gr and soak it in hot water with a PH of 3 (obtained by phosphoric acid). I keep the tea all night soaking ....My question is.....It is possible and safe to smoalk freebase DMT on top of the tea?.....
I thank you from know....king regards Yes, it is fine to vape dmt on top of a caapi tea. In fact, it's my favorite method and I highly recommend it.
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Thank you VERY VERY much, dreamer! You gave the exact clarifications I was looking for; looks like I'll be starting the brewing process this evening. I'm so excited!
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I thank you very much,dreamer...do you think it is my personal receipe,the one that I post above, right ?I mean,do you think is gona work?? Could you give me some help in finding a tread about making a Caapi tea? Anyway I will try the one I already brew,I think tomorrow night will be perfect! I have in mind to vape about 30mg of Spice over the tea.
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ganesha wrote:I thank you very much,dreamer...do you think it is my personal receipe,the one that I post above, right ?I mean,do you think is gona work?? Could you give me some help in finding a tread about making a Caapi tea? Anyway I will try the one I already brew,I think tomorrow night will be perfect! I have in mind to vape about 30mg of Spice over the tea.
Well I would recommend using a lot more than 5 grams,you won't get much effect from that, perhaps a bit of a mood lift. I would shoot for more like 30-50 grams to start. Also, it would be better to do multiple pulls on it with heat to get everything out. If you read the first post in this thread it should tell you everything you need to know. You may also find the link in my signature titled "Visual diagram for the administration of ayahuasca" helpful. Haapi journeying
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So I started my brew and so far everything is going wonderfully, at least with the B. caapi.
The MHRB brew on the other hand seems to be unable to separate the powdered bark from the water, so if I pour it through a shirt I'm afraid all the MHRB powder will come along with it and get stuck to the shirt, leaving me with nothing left to boil for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Any advice?
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LionDragon wrote:So I started my brew and so far everything is going wonderfully, at least with the B. caapi.
The MHRB brew on the other hand seems to be unable to separate the powdered bark from the water, so if I pour it through a shirt I'm afraid all the MHRB powder will come along with it and get stuck to the shirt, leaving me with nothing left to boil for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Any advice? At this point just pour it through the shirt and let all the water steep out, then from here you have a couple choices. You can just bundle the shirt up around it and use it like a giant tea bag for the next boils, or you can just dump the powder from the shirt back into the pot for the next boil and just proceed with that method. Protip for the future, put the powdered bark in the corner of a pillowcase and tie it off to use as a giant tea bag.
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Such expert advice, and thanks for responding so quickly! I'll report back with which method I end up using and how it went. Thanks again!
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All right, so I just finished the third boil and ended up using the T-shirt tea-bag method you suggested. Using powdered MHRB and B. caapi, I'm already learning, is a pain to deal with. In the future I'll be looking to explore shredded ingredients. That said the tea-bag method worked very well with the MHRB!
I brewed 1 pound (~454 grams) of B. caapi and 15 grams of MHRB. I don't plan to consume all the MHRB brew at once; I just wanted to make sure I had more than enough to test the waters and slowly increase my dosage if needed.
For my first experience I'm going to consume the B. caapi by itself, and I'm wondering how to properly measure it since I made so much at once. I want to try 50 grams my first time so am I correct in thinking 1/9th of my reduced brew will be roughly equal to 50 grams? I definitely don't want to overdo it.
Very excited to finally meet Mother Aya; I studied all aspects of both DMT and Aya for 2 years before my first DMT extraction and it's been over a year since then. I've had several profound journeys and finally feel ready to go deeper than ever before. I can't thank you all enough for making this possible.
I love this community!
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