Sooooo, I've been trying to astral project for about 3 weeks now, every night before going to sleep, i'll lie on my back, close my eyes and concentrate on breathing, clearing my head.

I've had various bits of advice and people telling me to do one thing or another and it finally pulled off....

I remember being in a very peaceful place, only my breathing and black space, then suddenly being in a classroom, at this point my mind sort of went... hang on... somethings odd here.. oh! OH I'M DREAMING? Out of body!? Ahhh WOW!! then I suddenly realised I shouldn't be this far so tried to go back to my room which evidently worked saw a very strange blue/white cord like thing between me and my body then continued to have one of the strangest dreams I've ever had in my life up to this point, mainly involving a huge in detail camping trip with lots of other people. Camper vans, tents, caravans and fires, conversations and then a seriously strange trip down a hill in the pitch black with me screaming at a random girl I'd met to be quiet for some reason? (that was strange as hell I'm usually quite a polite person xD) then a man in a really big house let us in to get warm as it was raining seriously hard and for whatever reason he was holding a pistol... then I woke up! but I woke up in my own room with my brother and some friends in it xD realising I was still dreaming I had to force myself to wake up..

On the note of this whole story, I've finally conciously left my body in my sleep!

Mystic0 is happy today.

so what exactly are your means for astral-projection, this is something that has always interested me in the back of my mind for some time now, but its really hard trying to find a place to "begin?" i guess i could say that.

anyway if ya felt sharing your methods for doing so, id love to hear them being interested myself

I'd also like to hear your methods. This has been on my to do list for far too long.

Dream breakthrough FTW!

I've used hints and tips and taken advice from as many places as possible over the last 3-4 weeks, it's seriously taken some doing but I think last night was partly fluke...

1) Sleep Paralysis - This was recommended by a few members on the nexus and various youtube channels/Guides and various forums. You have to put your body to sleep before you put your mind to sleep, to do this I simply put myself into a state of meditation while being in my own bed, concentrate only on your breathing, relax everything as much as you possibly can and simply be aware. If you have an itch, acknowledge it, ask why it's itching and then move on. Be aware of everything that does this, it's almost like your body is trying to find ways for you to change position or scratch it. Always stay perfectly still and relaxed, concentrate on breathing.

2) "I will astral project" - During the day and a few hours before bed, I would tell myself my intention was to "leave my body" or "astral project" or even just dream in general.

3) Keep a notepad next to your bed, I've only wrote a few dreams down as I'm fairly forgetful about stuff like that but it really did help as I remember dreams much better since doing so.

4) Don't give in after 5 minutes, keep trying till about 20-25 minutes, once sleep paralysis kicks in you'll notice your body is much harder to move like someone has laid a heavy blanket over you.

5) Keep the faith don't be dissapointed if it doesn't work first time, I just kept trying every night before bed and hey presto, it's eventually yielded pristine results.

Forgot to add, LIE ON YOUR BACK!!! it's awkward and you'll really want to move but it helps majorly with keeping a steady breathing cycle

Awesome experience!! I had my own little AP period and I did exactly everything you mentioned from lying on the back to keeping a steady breathing cycle. Because when its irratic your body knows your still conscious.. anyways the itching and minor pains were there for me as well, like my body was testing my brain. Lol, did this for a few weeks and closest I got was my eyes starting going crazy, kind of like REM but I'm conscious, and then I felt vibrations plenty of times but every time this happens I get too excited and my breathing goes wacky and my body wakes up and then I'm just laying there again.. any advice on keeping steady breathing patterns? That seems to be my issue.

Alright, I've never really looked into Astral Projection except reading a few Nexus threads. That said, I think I naturally do #1 to an extent. I feel awake and alert still, but I'm having many short dreams.

Now sometimes I have full on, long dreams while in this awake and alert but dreaming state. Most of the time the dreams are very short, fragmented, and random. To some extent I can control the content of the fragmented dreams in real-time. Focusing too much on changing or conjuring things in these dreams ends them and I go to a brief blackness before it resumes a new dream.

I occassionaly am fully aware in the long dreams, but not often (once or twice every 1-2months) or by my choosing.

Do you know anything about these short and fragmented dreams? Do you have them sometimes when trying tip #1? I'll try the other tips and see how it might change.

I'm beginning to think half the reason we forget or have fragmented memory of dreams is because we are not used to being in that plane of existence. Because our society has effectively cut itself off from spirituality and shamanism/drugs we are not used to being in the spirit world or dream world, thus resulting in loss of memory from such. I have noticed at my lucid dreaming and meditation has improved, so has my memory of the dreams and by writing down what I've seen right away or waking up and telling the nexus about it, it's improving my awareness in these states.

I watched a Bruce Parry amazon show the other day one of the nexians linked, the Shamans talked about "Jumping on bruce parrys chest" while he was asleep, trying to awake his inner spirit but he didn't seem to know, this to me suggested that the Shamans can knowlingly in sleep Astrally project themselves, because they are so aware of the existence of this plane.

I don't really think I know enough to comment on how to improve but from what I've gathered in terms of knowledge from these experiences so far, I suggest that constant practice and moderation in sleep altering drugs like caffein/calcium before bed will help reduce fragmented dream states and make you more aware of the experience.

I also think that when you're dreaming, the SECOND you think it's a dream, you have to tell yourself it is but don't get excited. In exactly the same way DMT trips work, accept it and remain calm, remember to breathe and enjoy the experience I think the nerves will calm over time, last night was incredibly intense for me and I did lose track of the projection very quickly when I was lost to the amazement of what was happening

In terms of breathing, I tend to breathe through my nose and out of my mouth, so I can relax my face muscles and jaw (I have TMI it makes things a lot harder for facial relaxation) and try to rhythmise what I'm doing too...

This is just my own experience of it mind I highly recommend youtubing and googling different processes of doing it.

HOWEVER!!! < the thing that helped the most is SLEEP PARALYSIS. Achieving this, makes the whole process 1000000x easier, the second you're in sleep paralysis you can simply just rise up and leave

Also, another tip when you get into sleep paralysis, is imagine yourself climbing up a rope in a pitch black room, e.g. you cannot see yourself at all but you're still climbing up.

Hope this all helps!

Thanks. I don't drink any caffeine or take calcium, but I will try to practice often and maybe play around with how late I smoke marijuana. I'll also work on trying not to alter the dream much or get too excited that I am experiencing it.

To fall asleep I always slow my breathing, focus on my visual space, and let everything else fall away. Phosphenes are what I generally begin to experience here, is this similar to Sleep Paralysis? I haven't gotten to the videos yet. After a period of phosphenes, while still being aware I lose awareness of my body and become immersed in the visual space with a dream. Would this be closer to full Sleep Paralysis?

The fragmented dreams are strange because I am essentially still awake for them and they kind of fall apart before my eyes into blackness. If I try too hard to control the content of what I am seeing it also falls apart into blackness. I think what I am trying to differentiate here is that it doesn't feel at all like an issue of not being able to recall a memory as I am actively experiencing it and watching it fade away, then watching another one form.


Perhaps this it is not Sleep Paralysis that I am experiencing? It usually feels exactly like a dream, but I know I'm not fully asleep and am aware I'm dreaming. However, I am not always a subject in the short/fragmented dreams but have an observer role and so can't get up and leave.

MysticO,

CONGRATS! Glad to hear your preseverance and discipline payed off.

Thanks for sharing your success and showing everyone that if you put the time and effort in, You really can achieve anything you put your mind to. Sounds like you have inspired others by being a shinning example.

I am really happy for you. That is, after all, a double achievement....met your goal and inspired others....AWESOME! Just meeting a goal is a challenge for most people. Inspiring others to set and meet their own goals is an achievement on a much larger scale that most people never realize. And you did it without even trying....your Grandfather would be very proud of you.

Congratulations again!

I'm not quite sure what to make of this in honesty, perhaps posting this on a dream forum would yield better results? I searched for astral projection forums and got some very fluid answers from those too, it actually sounds like you're already astrally projecting but you're unaware of doing so or at least conciously doing so it also sounds like a mix of lucid too! I think maybe you're lucid dreaming but havn't quite got the hang of controlling the dream yet so it feels like you're an observer?

I'm still very new to this myself mind I'm just posting from my own current experience and what's worked for me. I know from experience Marijuana usually results in "dreamless" sleeps or at least makes it incredibly hard to remember dreams, so I think possibly you're going into a dream state but too much marijuana is making is harder for you to keep awareness in the dream.

I know since I seriously cut down on smoalking dreams have become MUCH more vivid and easier to understand

Also, thank you all for helping me celebrate my success I'm indeed glad I've inspired so many others!

Much love

I did it this morning and now i know i've done it before tho involuntarily.
Today it was a trip to the bathroom which is what motivated me to leave my body once i got to the bathroom my aim was completely off and the carpets were wrong which shocked me back to my body. Last night i had a quick dmt session with my cat sitting next to me and i became so fearful that the spirits in my room were trying to calm me down there was one i remember well but forget what he said. My cat was staring at me like some crazy shit was happening, i proceeded to meditate and try to leave my body i kept trying until most after glow wore off then went to bed. Before my session i was looking into this OBT Guidebook shown to me through the chat.
http://obe4u.com/files/SOBT.pdf

You think the astral plane is wierd, wait till you get to the causal plane hehe


The last time I tryed it (And have been doing it for a while). I met what C.G.Jung called an archetype which is feminine in men, and masculine in women. Was very interesting and have never got the the Mental Plane since.

Congrats!!

Thanks for all of the advice Mystic0! I apologize for unloading it all on you, my mind got going on the idea when I read your post and it ran wild.

Congratulations on your success and I hope to join you soon

The causal plane sounds interesting as well Jung's archetype ideas are quite something.

No worries at all ask anything you want, I will answer to the best of my knowledge glad I could help and hope you succeed as I have!

Congrats mystic0!
This experience actually sounds like lucid dreaming to me. When you lose focus you can lose your lucidty and begin dreaming again.

I find astral projection/travel to be a completely different mindblowing experience. In a lucid dream it is basically your consciousness being awake, and sometimes stretching out of your body but it can only go so far. Astral is completely seperating from your body allowing you to experience endless new realms and dimensions. I usually achieve sleep paralysis through lucid dreaming by using a few techniques which will allow you to vibrate to a new frequency and seperate completely.


Try this- Next time your have lucidity in your described experience about, place your focus and consciousness to your sleeping physical body laying in bed. Focus on your self being in your body while asleep, and practice similar techniques to what you have done to achieve this lucid state eg deep breathing, tell yourself "I will leave my body" then inforce; thought-free/silent pure mind. You will sometimes see your body sleeping.. this is a good sign, keep going. Once your achieve sleep paralysis, stay very calm and wait 30 seconds as the vibration/high pitched sound intensifies. Pick a type of seperation technique that works best for you! I advise exploring our astral realm and getting a grip on things before adventuring off! ENJOY

Congratulations on your success!

Sleep paralysis for me isn't usually all that pleasant but I can understand why one would want to induce it for these kinds of reasons. I wake up to sleep paralysis every once in a while. It's usually just very uncomfortable and terrifying because, apart from being completely paralyzed from head to toe, I tend to enter this delirium-type headspace where I see or hear people that aren't actually there. It's like standing on the threshold that separates dreams from reality.

Only once have I had a spiritual experience under these circumstances where, as strange as it may sound, I literally "entered the void". I woke up paralyzed, but laying on my back (I usually have these experiences in incredibly uncomfortable sleeping positions). I felt this tingling sensation in my body, like waves of vibrating energy. Instead of trying to fight it like usual, I decided to try and focus it.

I sent the waves down to my toes and soon enough my body began to move towards that same direction. I realized that my feet were hovering up in the air so I immediately pulled them back and got my body into its original position. Next I tried to focus the energy upwards and before I knew it I was traveling out of my body. But I wasn't in my room. I rather felt as if I was a cloud of vibrating energy floating around in some kind of a void. It's hard to explain, actually. It was an ecstatic feeling, yet terrifying at the same time. For a while I thought that I might be dead but soon enough I was back in my body, fully awake and feeling fantastic.