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Mimosa alkaloids instead of Chacruna for Aya Options
 
Hikuri
#1 Posted : 10/16/2012 3:15:01 PM
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Well I'm starting to prepare diet wise and mentally for my second experience with Aya. I had some the first time that was brewed in Peru with the traditional Chacruna admixture. This time I was considering going with extracted mimosa alkaloids since I have some left over.

I know that people say Mimosa is very potent and even has a wild untamed aspect that can freak people out Twisted Evil. I have friends that have been shattered for a few weeks from the lingering effects of trauma experienced with a mimosa rue concoction. Just wondering... is this really characteristic of the mimosa itself or is this only at high doses? I don't want to do any damage to my psyche I'm looking for healing and insight. Should I just not even bother with the mimosa and suck it up to order some Chacruna or Chaliponga?

I plan on taking no more than 50mg alkaloids my first go round with it. Does this sound safe or is that too high to start with?
 

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#2 Posted : 10/16/2012 3:49:39 PM

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We usually refer to taking freebase DMT together with either extracted harmalas or rue tea as pharmahuasca or pharma in short. The good news about pharma is that it is much more precise to dose. The bad news is that pharma usually lasts shorter than aya because your digestive tract can readily absorb the alkaloids. Your friends most likely had high doses which is the cause for uncomfortable experiences, not the mimosa alkaloids.

Dosing 50mg of DMT for a first time of pharma is what most people would recommend taking. If after an hour you feel it's not working you can always dose more DMT. I advice you to avoid eating the DMT directly as it burns and is very uncomfortable for your stomach. Dissolve your DMT in some orange juice or lemon juice. Lemon juice works, but it's horrible to drink and once the purge comes you'll regret it. Drop your DMT in the OJ, stir and let sit for a 5 to 15 minutes while occasionally stirring so the DMT is properly dissolved.

The orange juice contains citric acids which will react with your freebase DMT to form DMT-citrate, which is much less harsh on your mouth, throat and digestive tract.

To dose simple drink your b. caapi or syrian rue tea and after 20 minutes you can drink your DMT-OJ.

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Michal_R
#3 Posted : 10/16/2012 3:53:27 PM

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Hi Hikuri,

I was just wondering, as this wasn´t clear from your post, whether you are planning to ingesti extracted DMT, or full spectrum Mimosa alkaloids?

Hikuri wrote:
...This time I was considering going with extracted mimosa alkaloids...


What kind of "extracted mimosa alkaloids"? Is it freebase?

Hikuri wrote:
I plan on taking no more than 50mg alkaloids my first go round with it. Does this sound safe or is that too high to start with?


My first experience was with 30mgs of DMT, my second one was 50mgs. Although I weight around 180 pounds, I was quite glad I went with 30mgs for the first time. But the "power" of the experience also depends on the method of ingestion (how empty your stomach is, on precise timing between Harmalas and DMT...), on your previous experience with powerful entheogens, and of course on your own unique metabolism...
 
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#4 Posted : 10/16/2012 3:56:53 PM

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Hikuri wrote:
...I'm looking for healing and insight...


That´s actually why a lot of people dring Ayahuasca / Pharmahuasca. However, we should be ready to accept the fact that it is not up to ourselves, what we are shown by Aya/Pharma. Let Aya/Pharma decide what is best for us...
 
Hikuri
#5 Posted : 10/16/2012 4:32:17 PM
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I will be working with fb mimosa hostilis alkaloids (full spectrum)in tincture. approximately 1ml to 50mg alkaloids. It may not be necessary to dissolve in OJ since its in tincture correct? I would like to avoid sugars and fruit juices during the experience if all possible.
 
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#6 Posted : 10/16/2012 4:34:32 PM

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How are your full spectrum fb alks "in tincture"?
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#7 Posted : 10/16/2012 4:38:10 PM
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SnozzleBerry wrote:
How are your full spectrum fb alks "in tincture"?

They are dissolved into a glycerine tincture. 1200 mg dissolved in 24 ml of glycerin.
 
SnozzleBerry
#8 Posted : 10/16/2012 4:56:20 PM

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I don't have any experience with gylcerol, but I can't foresee any problems with that. You shouldn't need any sugars or fruit juices. It'll convert to DMT hcl in your gut.
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