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arctuis
#1 Posted : 10/7/2012 4:59:19 AM

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ok so this is only my second time smoking dmt the first time was out of a oil pipe/meth pipe i only took one hit because the dmt was burned and was horribly harsh and almost made me vomit. this time i made some changa by infusing weed leafs (not buds) with some dmt i had left roughly .25 maybe .3 i infused with half bowl of the leaf. i dont have a sitter and im nervous to do this without a watchfull eye just make sure im ok. is changa the way to go if im wanting to breakthrough with smoother better tasting smoke also do you think one big rip out of a mini bubbler will achive breakthrough
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#2 Posted : 10/7/2012 5:09:37 AM

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Changa (at least mine, I've never had anyone else's) always tastes so funky that I've grown inclined not to make it just on the funky taste alone. Will it taste better than burnt DMT out of an oil burner? I guess it could be a coin toss Very happy I don't know you personally, but if you just sit on the couch or something, nothing too bad can go physically wrong. If this were salvia, I would say a sitter is a must, but I honestly think you'll be fine, especially because your dosage isn't crazy. If you get the .25 in one hit, I think you've got a decent shot at a breakthrough. The transition from baseline into hyperspace is a bit smoother and delayed from normal, but once it gets going, it's explosive.
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arctuis
#3 Posted : 10/7/2012 5:21:33 AM

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well is nausea an issue with changa? also iv heard taking a shower before hand helps so as not to feel all the dirt and nasty shit from the day. also ill be in my room no couch or chair i might be able to prop up against my wall and bed but idk how comfertable that is
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arctuis
#4 Posted : 10/7/2012 5:23:02 AM

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oh also its 255mg just incase u didnt understand my dosage at least 200mg is in there and from what i hear it only takes 55mg to breakthrough
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#5 Posted : 10/7/2012 5:36:48 AM

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Oh yeah, I misread that for 25mg. Well anything over 60mg is really overkill. Nausea shouldn't be an issue, but there's a small percentage of people that get inexplicably sick from changa. It's not known why and it seems to be an issue with the person more than the changa itself. The most likely reason as to why you got nauseous from the oil burner is because you burnt it. Nausea tends to be a sign of A) and overdose and B) burnt DMT which tend to go hand in hand more than you may think actually.
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#6 Posted : 10/7/2012 5:52:58 AM

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Im just now able to see straight from my last breakthrough with the changa( enhanced leaf, no harmalas )

Oil burners suck. I smoke my leaf out of a bubbler. Hold the flame just above it, drawing very slow, and when it gets a little cherry going take the flame off. Draw long and slow, hold it in as long as you can. I have a high tolerance to things so it usually takes me 2 or three, If you can still smoke easily after the first hit, take another.

Also I sit on my bed cross legged leaning against the wall, and put pillows and blankets behind me for support
 
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#7 Posted : 10/7/2012 6:13:19 AM

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so i cant just cherry up the changa real fast then hit it slow. or can i put the flame onto the infused leaf. my theory was that if you infused it into the herb you wouldnt have to worry about the burning it problem becuase u would burn the leaf just want to be sure im prepared its my only dose and its not easy to come by were im from seeing as how they pulled all the mimosa off line completly
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#8 Posted : 10/7/2012 6:14:55 AM

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As for the showering, it probably helps, and it can help to be symbolic in cleansing yourself of negativity or whatnot, but honestly I would say that I've been "dirty" or a bit unkempt for some of my most profound and sacred experiences, so when it really boils down to it, I don't know how much of a difference it really makes. Also, maybe it's just the kind of person I am, but DMT never makes me more aware of the fact that I'm dirty than usual other than the fact that sometimes with a heightened sense of smell, I may notice that the room smells a bit foul where I would normally be a bit desensitized to it.
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#9 Posted : 10/7/2012 6:23:46 AM

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I actually like taking a shower before smoking, it just makes me feel good, but I don't see it as something I have to do.

If you hit the changa too fast it will burn hotter. You could get a harsh hit and also destroy some of the goods. Slow and steady wins the race. Don't get it too cherried, I usually get it slightly cherried then relight it halfway through the hit, barely touching the flame to the leaf. AND HOLD IT IN AS LONG AS YOU CAN
 
 
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