I’m surprised that no one has linked to here:

Current NDERF Near Death Experiences


Or to here:

IANDS NDE Accounts


And compared them to these:

EROWID DMT Experience Reports

This way, you can judge for yourself.

Wow that IS interesting. I got a PM regarding my original question, from a person who had both psychedelic experiences and a NDE. What he describes is very similar to what you are discussing in your OP here.




I don't think reading reports will help me judge for myself. I would be more interested in discussing this matter with people who have personally experienced both.

I dunno...with people who've done both, it may be hard to weed out expectations and personal biases, such as DMT informing the NDE or vice versa. I think both approaches (comparing reports and talking to people who have had both experiences) would be the most encompassing manner to engage this comparison.

This certainly makes sense. I will look into each avenue.

i can say that i have not as yet experienced a NDE or DMT.
but i reguarly lucid dream.
sometimes they can be very frightening,meeting scary entities and the such and other times very enlightening,the dream guiding you in your waking life.
i have had many dreams of flying or leaping with very high jumps and the occassion obe(well it seemed like one or a very vivid dream).

interesting subject

My uncle had died clinically twice - once in a bike crash and the second time when he suffered a heart attack - an lived trough it to this day.

We smoked DMT both for the first time together and he said he had the exactly same feeling that he had while clinically dead. He tried other entheogens but this was the closest he got to NDE and back.

If anyone needs a full report of both of the experiences i can get him to describe both one day and post it up here.

I for one, would be extremely interested in this.

I´ve had an NDE when i was 6 years old. My memory of it has ofcourse been distorted through both the years and the many psychedelic experiences i´ve had later in life, but in my view there is indeed a simmilarity. I don´t recall there being fractal-like visuals, but i do remember the presence of an entity that gave me sort of a 'guided tour' through all of my life thus far. There was also an atmosphere/emotion that was more or less the same: a light sort of seriousness, if that makes any sense.

Ok, Shivaya, I will save the topic, because it will going to take some time till we can just chill and write about it; but we will bring our contribution gladly, both of us

Blesses !

after a bike accident i was induced into a coma for a month in order to keep my blood pressure low (ruptured aorta), i was under for 3 weeks and it took a week for them to gradually wake me.
As you slowly regain consciousness your eyes begin to open and you morph what you see in the real world (ie a hospital bed in the ICU) into your dreams.
I don"t recall much, but the actual ambience when i have been in hyperspace is completely alien and the only reference i have to it is was when i was deeply under. There are a few stories i recall when dreaming (a week of bizarre and sometimes very disturbing situations) all related to my ego and worries in general. The earliest memory, while under, was of being in a slo/mo land interacting with "entities?" experimenting on me. But i was very relaxed at this stage, moving around in transcendental haze. Then for some reason i panicked and was trying to break out of this world and run. Then this exterior voice called in to me and said "hug46 relax you are in a safe environment , be happy". so i relaxed.
I don"t know whether this was NDE but at the time, back in the conscious world they did have to whisk me back into theater as there was another rupture to deal with , and the pancreas, spleen, collapsed lung.The broken ribs,damaged spine,fractured pelvis,fractured wrist and knee weren"t that urgent! . Its all very hazy but whenever i go deep on the spice this seems to be my reference point. Deeply alienoid.A world i find interesting but also like returning from!
After that roller coaster i was such a happy bunny to wake into a world i mostly understood. Once they took the tracheotomy pipe out i spent the next 5 weeks in hospital quizzing my girlfriend of the time, trying to to decipher between the facts of the outer world and the facts of the inner world .

My mother would tell me stories of when she practiced as a nurse some 30 years ago. She would talk to all of her patients that were in comas, letting them know certain people loved them, missed them, and she would tell them comforting things and stories. When they would wake up weeks, sometimes months later, they would recognize her voice and thank her for the things she had said.

yes! My mum,sister and girlfriend did that so much, telling me stories and getting excited when they got a little reaction, as i woke, a smile or such like.And yes it does make the world of a difference, definitely with me, it can steer you in your interior travels. When i came round completely it was like some of the nurses were old friends from my dreams.