8 ) Let the crystals dry, wash them with acetone (it removes any traces of sodium corbonate which is totally insoluble in acetone), evaporate the acetone and enjoy the product.

SWIM has some crystals nicely formed from adding FASA to Xylene. He will siphon off in the morning and then wash with acetone.

However SWIM was expecting to see a clear divide between Xylene and acetone in the container. The container was sealed so nothing could evaporate.

Would a simple H2O wash mean I can get the Xylene usable for another pull?

Also SWIM now imagines that acetone is not re-usable in this situation. Correct?

According to the tek: 2) take the shredded/powdered bark and cover it with enough citric acid acetone...

Now that's a realy stupid question, but does someone takes this literally, so that only as much acetone is used that can cover the powder? (so once the powder settled one might only have maybe a half inch of acetone covering it)
In a way it makes sense as the acetone only needed to carry the citric acid to the powder...
It's just making sure, as someone asked me this question in the supermarket and he doesn't want to use too little acetone.

Pics as promised, FASA in the 20g test jar.

100g + citric acid acetone, in the extraction pics.

Cheers

edit: SWIM washed his xylene with water but it's now cloudier than ever. This was tap water and SWIM believes it to be quite hard.

Any suggestions?

According to PubChem, freebase tetrahydroharmine has a molecular weight of 216.27894 g/mol.

Here’s a link to that page: http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm....id=442118&loc=ec_rcs

According to PubChem, tetrahydroharmine hydrochloride weighs 252.73988 g/mol

Here’s that page: http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm....id=218626&loc=ec_rcs

So tetrahydroharmine hydrochloride weighs 36.46094 g/mol more than the freebase, which amounts to 1.1685829420099802597515967111731 times the weight of the freebase. So it’s nearly as potent as the freebase. Hydrochloric acid weighs 36.46 g/mol.

If you look at that page or calculate it by weight, you can see that tetrahydroharmine hydrochloride is a one to one salt. I don’t know about the citrate, I can’t find information about whether or not it’s a one to one salt.

Citric acid weighs 192.123 g/mol, so if the citrate is a one to one salt it should weight 192.123 g/mol more than the freebase coming to 408.40194 g/mol. So it would weigh 1.8883111781479972113789719886735 times more than the freebase and 1.6158982903687380084219395846829 times more than the hydrochloride.

So 200 mg of tetrahydroharmine hydrochloride should be as potent as 323 mg of tetrahydroharmine citrate (assuming it’s a one to one salt, which is probably is). That’s quite a difference in potency.


SWIM has tried both and other than tetrahydroharmine hydrochloride being stronger and tasting a little worse, the effects are identical. So even though tetrahydroharmine hydrochloride costs a little more than tetrahydroharmine citrate, you are actually getting more for your money.


Jorkest, SWIM was quite blown away by the strength of 20 mg of freebase DMT mixed with 200 mg THH HCl. They were taken together at the same time in water with 100 mg of citric acid added to make the DMT dissolve as DMT citrate. The effects peaked after about 45 minutes. The peak was way stronger than SWIM expected for 20 mg of DMT. He was not prepared for it. But it was A LOT OF FUN. SWIM was able to sleep about 2 hours after taking it and had lots of fantastic dreams.

DMT has a molecular weight of 188.269 g/mol.

Fumaric acid weighs 116.07 g/mol.

DMT fumarate weighs 492.608 g/mol being two DMT molecules to one fumaric acid molecule. So it weighs 1.3082557404564745125325996313785 times as much as freebase DMT.

So 20 mg of freebase DMT is equal to 26 mg of the DMT fumarate. So for the same effects you would mix: 26 mg of DMT fumarate with 200 mg of THH HCl (or 323 mg of THH citrate). It should work very well.

Jorkest, the trip was quite intense and it seems like the THH used was excessive. I imagine probably 100 mg of THH HCl would work. Next time SWIM will try that.

To give you an idea of the intensity, during the peak, SWIM could not sit still at all, it was like a strong acid trip. Closing the eyes lead to out of body experiences complete with other entities present. It was amazing. And all the while SWIM’s mind was clear and focused but also in a strong psychedelic state.

The DMT SWIM used was clear white and extracted from psychotria viridis so it didn’t have that rough edge mimosa is sometimes known for.

The experience was more crystal clear than that achieved using harmine or harmaline. There was absolutely no mental fog present. THH leaves your brain in top condition. That’s the main difference SWIM noticed. THH smoothes out the experience without muddying the waters at all. It was the best oral DMT experience SWIM ever had. There was no nausea, and it was more crystal clear than an acid trip.

SWIM was also wondering as far as the activated charcoal, how it turns yellow DMT into white DMT, and also the solvent from yellow to clear. If it is indeed getting rid of the Jungle and DMT N-Oxide, could one not put it in with the acetone in the final wash and then it could be filtered along with any of the sodium carbonate left over? That way you wouldn't have to deal with naphtha. Perhaps naphtha works better but does anyone know much about what the charcoal takes out?

Also in the xylene method, one could just put it in the xylene, then let it drop and filter it out before adding the FASA.

SWIM knows that activated charcoal is used for removing toxins from the body. Perhaps it mght be useful in removing some of the toxins in bufotenine??? SWIM doesn't know cause he's not that chemically knowledgeable. SWIM is just throwing some ideas around for those who do know.

SWIM also knows that zeolite is even better at removing toxins than activated charcoal. Most of it that he has seen is small particles suspended in distilled water so you cant filter. The question would then be if the particles would drop back down into the water when doing a wash with it, then there would be no need to filter it out. SWIM knows thay also sell zeolite powder. This might work better. SWIM wonders if anyone knows much about zeolite or has tried using it to purify DMT.